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Re: Check the homepage - new Panzer IV's on the way.
« Reply #45 on: October 11, 2011, 03:34:25 PM »
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Re: Check the homepage - new Panzer IV's on the way.
« Reply #46 on: October 11, 2011, 03:45:38 PM »
Question-Are these tracks on the front or some sort of armor?
http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/stories/news/panzer4/panzer-4-h-4.jpg

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Re: Check the homepage - new Panzer IV's on the way.
« Reply #47 on: October 11, 2011, 03:50:18 PM »
Im wondering how would the short barrelled gun perform vs the t34's 76mm one.
Is it capable to kill anything but lvts, jeeps and halftracks?


The 75mm KwK 37 L/24 gun (short barrel) has less power than the 75mm KwK 40 L/43, which has less power than the 75mm KwK 40 L/48 (currently in game).  The F-34 tank gun on the T-34, overpowers the short barreled L/24 easily... and depending on the ammo used (AP or HVAP) varies against the L/43 and L/48 gun.

You can get all the armor penetration ratings and compare them here:

http://www.wwiivehicles.com/germany/guns/75-mm.asp

http://www.wwiivehicles.com/ussr/guns.asp

I was going to recreate the tables here... but its too much of a pain in the hiney.   :D

Question-Are these tracks on the front or some sort of armor?
http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/stories/news/panzer4/panzer-4-h-4.jpg

Those are spare tracks


   
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Re: Check the homepage - new Panzer IV's on the way.
« Reply #48 on: October 11, 2011, 03:50:55 PM »
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Re: Check the homepage - new Panzer IV's on the way.
« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2011, 04:02:50 PM »
 :O "... for the next version of Aces High..." ?  :headscratch:

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Re: Check the homepage - new Panzer IV's on the way.
« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2011, 04:09:57 PM »
looks phenomenal :aok

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Re: Check the homepage - new Panzer IV's on the way.
« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2011, 04:28:16 PM »
:O "... for the next version of Aces High..." ?  :headscratch:

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Re: Check the homepage - new Panzer IV's on the way.
« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2011, 04:44:52 PM »
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Re: Check the homepage - new Panzer IV's on the way.
« Reply #53 on: October 11, 2011, 05:03:55 PM »

The 75mm KwK 37 L/24 gun (short barrel) has less power than the 75mm KwK 40 L/43, which has less power than the 75mm KwK 40 L/48 (currently in game).  The F-34 tank gun on the T-34, overpowers the short barreled L/24 easily... and depending on the ammo used (AP or HVAP) varies against the L/43 and L/48 gun.

You can get all the armor penetration ratings and compare them here:

The Soviet 76mm F-34 tank gun has less AP capability than the M4/75mm, just food for thought.  ;)  Also, at 1000 yards, that same F-34 76mm only has 10-12mm more AP ability than the short barreled 75mm on the Panzer IV F (75mm KwK 37 L/24), hardly much worth mentioning, imo.   :)  The T34/76 has a leg up in 1v1 tank duels against the Panzer IV F because of its armor more so than its gun. 

Also, HVAP loses any advantage once ranges of 1000-1200 yards, it simply does not have the kinetic energy to punch through.  So at ranges beyond 1000 yards, the Panzer F2 and H have a distinct advantage over the T34/76.  The HVAP brings the T34/76 up to par with the other tanks.  Heck, the H has better AP ability than the T34/85 and M4/76, yet we'd never know it in AH, at least with the current version (never seemed to get the job done like the M4/76 or T34/85).  Hopefully, the new model will be more on cue with its true capabilities. 
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Re: Check the homepage - new Panzer IV's on the way.
« Reply #54 on: October 11, 2011, 05:16:34 PM »

you noticed to  :noid  :noid  :noid

Each update is a new "version".  Take your tin foil hats off now, gents.  Everything will be just fine.   :lol
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Re: Check the homepage - new Panzer IV's on the way.
« Reply #55 on: October 11, 2011, 05:22:51 PM »
Like Smokinloon said, the big major updates are "new versions" while bug fixes are called "patches".


It'll be pretty cool to have the Stubby in the game, I'll bet it'll be a great support / town killer tank.
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Re: Check the homepage - new Panzer IV's on the way.
« Reply #56 on: October 11, 2011, 05:32:37 PM »
Like Smokinloon said, the big major updates are "new versions" while bug fixes are called "patches".


It'll be pretty cool to have the Stubby in the game, I'll bet it'll be a great support / town killer tank.

My knee jerk reaction to that was to say that the different 75mm guns all fired the same HE round.  While I'm still not %100 sure either way, I have a source that list the Pzr IV H's 75mm Kw.K.40 L / 48 as having a 5.8kg projectile w/ a .64 charge of Amatol (TNT), and the Pzr IV F1's 75mm Kw.K. 37 L / 24 as having a 5.74kg projectile w/ a .69kg charge of Amatol.  Yet, both are named exactly the same (7.5cm Sprgr. 34).  

So hmmmmm.... not sure what to think.

  
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Re: Check the homepage - new Panzer IV's on the way.
« Reply #57 on: October 11, 2011, 05:39:14 PM »
Really? Didn't know...
was a diff thread did not see this one :(
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Re: Check the homepage - new Panzer IV's on the way.
« Reply #58 on: October 11, 2011, 05:53:14 PM »
Question-Are these tracks on the front or some sort of armor?
http://www.hitechcreations.com/images/stories/news/panzer4/panzer-4-h-4.jpg

Those are spare tracks
they were used as applique armor enhancements too. those track links could keep 1 or 2 rounds from penetrating and give the crew time to react.
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Re: Check the homepage - new Panzer IV's on the way.
« Reply #59 on: October 11, 2011, 06:01:42 PM »
they were used as applique armor enhancements too. those track links could keep 1 or 2 rounds from penetrating and give the crew time to react.
so, how exactly were they used as armor? kind of an odd place to put additional tracks if its supposed to be for protection, especially on top of the "fold" in the upper hull.