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Offline StokesAk

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Few questions on the Bf 109G-6
« on: October 11, 2011, 08:32:10 PM »
I've been flying this jewel lately and I have a couple of questions on it.

Did it have any variations with a 30mm replacing the 20mm?

Is there a major performance hit with gondolas?

What is the difference between the model we have in game and the A/S versions?

Sorry if this is a little blunt, but I am just in search of some answers.

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Re: Few questions on the Bf 109G-6
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 08:39:00 PM »
I've been flying this jewel lately and I have a couple of questions on it.

Did it have any variations with a 30mm replacing the 20mm?

Is there a major performance hit with gondolas?

What is the difference between the model we have in game and the A/S versions?

Sorry if this is a little blunt, but I am just in search of some answers.

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A/S was the high alt version. Much more power and great at high alt.

Very big hit with gondies, do NOT even think about it.

Yes it had a 30mm option, the G-6/U-4. We used to have that option in game but it was removed some time ago.


In conclusion, its a piece of crap. Fly the G-2 :devil
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Re: Few questions on the Bf 109G-6
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2011, 08:40:21 PM »
I really hope to see the G-6 with the 30mm option again.  I bet that would breathe new life in to the G-6 version.   :D
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Re: Few questions on the Bf 109G-6
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2011, 08:54:42 PM »
A/S was the high alt version. Much more power and great at high alt.

Very big hit with gondies, do NOT even think about it.

Yes it had a 30mm option, the G-6/U-4. We used to have that option in game but it was removed some time ago.


In conclusion, its a piece of crap. Fly the G-2 :devil

I see how it is much worse than the G-2, but I have had great success it flies like a spitfire for me. I guess I might be to used to the sluggish controls of the P38 though.

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Re: Few questions on the Bf 109G-6
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2011, 09:30:07 PM »
I've been having a lot of fun with the G6 lately as well, right now I think I actually prefer it to the G2.  I like the handling on the G6 but it could just be a comfort factor, I have less stick time with the G2.

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Re: Few questions on the Bf 109G-6
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 09:45:42 PM »
The G-5 is the same as the G-6 only with a pressureized cockpit. Both used the same engines and the GM-1 boosting system. There are subtle visual differances, moisture absorbing discs in the canopy, and larger bulge on the right side of the cowling.

The 30mm could be used as a hub cannon. Also for a short time there were 30mm gondolas. Gondolas in both caliburs effected the aircraft by increasing weight, reducing speed, acceleration, and roll rate.  
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Re: Few questions on the Bf 109G-6
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2011, 09:58:17 PM »
If you like the G-6, please join us for the upcoming scenario, Enemy Coast Ahead.

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Re: Few questions on the Bf 109G-6
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2011, 03:00:30 AM »
Did it have any variations with a 30mm replacing the 20mm?

Is there a major performance hit with gondolas?

What is the difference between the model we have in game and the A/S versions?
Perdweeb basically covered it.
What i can add:
- the gondolas cost you about 500pounds overweight, zirka 10% loss in the turn rate and radius, 600feet/min loss in the climb rate and remove about 10-12mph from your (already poor) top speed.
- equipped with the DB605A engine the g6 does 336mph on the deck and tops out at 21k, 393mph. The AS engine had a different gearing on the supercharger, did like 326mph at sea level and 405ish at 27k.
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Re: Few questions on the Bf 109G-6
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2011, 08:23:00 AM »
I really hope to see the G-6 with the 30mm option again.  I bet that would breathe new life in to the G-6 version.   :D
It would be cool, but I don't think that engine would deal with a 30mm to well
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Re: Few questions on the Bf 109G-6
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2011, 08:44:40 AM »
It would be cool, but I don't think that engine would deal with a 30mm to well
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Re: Few questions on the Bf 109G-6
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2011, 02:02:07 PM »
If you like the G-6, please join us for the upcoming scenario, Enemy Coast Ahead.

1943 Channel Front, LW vs. RAF, 109's, 190's, and ju 88's vs. Spits, Typhoons, Mossies, and B-25's.

Exactly what I am planning to do!

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I think he is saying the 30mm is a larger gun so therefore it would need more room in the engine hub for it t be mounted properly.
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Re: Few questions on the Bf 109G-6
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2011, 02:45:21 PM »
Exactly what I am planning to do!

I think he is saying the 30mm is a larger gun so therefore it would need more room in the engine hub for it t be mounted properly.

I think the gun just extends back further into the cockpit. I have seen a picture of it somewhere.
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Re: Few questions on the Bf 109G-6
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2011, 02:55:22 PM »
I think the gun just extends back further into the cockpit. I have seen a picture of it somewhere.
Shorter barrel for the 30mm Mk108. I'll post some pictures when I get home from work.
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Re: Few questions on the Bf 109G-6
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2011, 03:48:38 PM »
The DB 605AS has the bigger blower from the DB 603 so it was able to provide more power at higher altitudes. However, the large blower reduced power slightly at low altitude (it required more HP to drive it) and increased the size of the cowl-humps, so performance at low altitude was reduced.




Yes there were late-model G-6's armed with the 30 mm MK 108, but our G-6 is an early model. The late-model G-6's are represented in-game by the G-14 with the Erla-hood canopy, MW-50 injection and MK 108 engine-cannon. The G-14 is essentially a standardization of the numerous late-model G-6 variants.
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Re: Few questions on the Bf 109G-6
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2011, 04:04:36 PM »
I think he is saying the 30mm is a larger gun so therefore it would need more room in the engine hub for it t be mounted properly.
I dont get it.
Joachim, do you know whats the difference between the in game g6 and g14? Just saying: not so much.
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Since they both use the same DB605A engine, i dont see any reason why the tater couldnt fit in the g6 (not to mention it had it in real life). Several g6s were retrofitted with the new equipment.

Predator got it. Just sounds strange whe we get the 1943 g6 in the 1944 events...
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