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Offline Tyrannis

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Re: He 111
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2011, 08:21:42 PM »
He111 is on the short list.

In alphabetic order:
IAR-80
Beaufighter
D4Y
He111
Ki-43
LaGG-3
Pe-2
Wellington
Yak-1
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Re: He 111
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2011, 08:29:15 PM »
Yak-3 would be nice, but it doesn't make the short list in my opinion because it doesn't fill a gap, just broadens coverage along with the Yak-9U, La-5FN and La-7.

IAR-80 would be nice as well, but doesn't make the short list due to being so minor a player.

If I were to extend the short list to 10 it would be something like:

B6N2
C.200
Curtis Hawk
SM.79-II

The He111, preferably in a Battle of Britain and a later war version, is a gap filler due to its low use potential in the LWA.


Now, hopefully we get a mix of gap fillers and MA toys.  MA toys on my list are:

H8K2
J2M3 and/or J2M5
Ju188A-1
Ki-44-II
Me410A and/or Me410B
Tu-2
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Re: He 111
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2011, 09:14:58 PM »
Ju88c???  You want a "heavy fighter/night fighter" armed with a single 20mm in the nose over the He111????     :headscratch:

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wiki is not ur friend ju88c6 had 3 mg 17mm and 1 20mm mounted in the nose

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Re: He 111
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2011, 09:32:29 PM »
wiki is not ur friend ju88c6 had 3 mg 17mm and 1 20mm mounted in the nose

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Re: He 111
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2011, 11:04:03 PM »
+1 for any Axis bomber.

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Re: He 111
« Reply #20 on: October 14, 2011, 07:10:15 AM »
The 111 wouldnt be better than the betty: perk farmer/cannon fodder in the scenarios. still a +1/2
ju188 anyone?
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Re: He 111
« Reply #21 on: October 14, 2011, 10:03:32 AM »
Still tough escorting a Ju 88C in a 109E
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Re: He 111
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2011, 05:14:19 PM »
bump
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Re: He 111
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2011, 08:50:52 PM »
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Re: He 111
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2011, 09:21:06 PM »
Needed above all other planes, regardless of what anyone says to the contrary:


He-111 H4
He-111 H11
190 F-1/U3
IAR-80B/C
SdKfz 251/22
G.55
M3 Stuart
Panzer III E, J, and L
Crusader
Matilda
StuG III
Cromwell
Churchill
Hetzer
109E-7
109G6 w/ 30mm
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: He 111
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2011, 09:40:56 PM »
Needed above all other planes, regardless of what anyone says to the contrary:


He-111 H4
He-111 H11
190 F-1/U3
IAR-80B/C
SdKfz 251/22
G.55
M3 Stuart
Panzer III E, J, and L
Crusader
Matilda
StuG III
Cromwell
Churchill
Hetzer
109E-7
109G6 w/ 30mm
You're a loon.  The Ki-43 alone is more important than most of that stuff combined.

Bf109E-7?  Puh-leez.
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Re: He 111
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2011, 09:48:34 PM »
BIG negative ghost rider.

Our EW bomber set is pathetic, our EW GV set is basicly non-existant, our MW one is lacking, Germany has no ground-attack planes to compete with the IL-2 and the 190F1/U3 would provide us with one. Germany has no assult guns or Tank Destroyers, the Italians have a grand total of 2 aircraft, the Luftwaffe is lacking in late-Earlywar fighters, and the 109G is lacking a spud gun.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: He 111
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2011, 09:54:26 PM »
190F8 is your German ground attack.
The 109G14 has the option of the MK108.

The early war bombers could use help. Wellington, He-111s and Do-17s. Update the Boston, Ju-87 and Ju-88 as well as adding early war variants of them.

The C20x also needs a facelift, the G.55 would see plenty of MA use, while the SM.79 would act as an early war Italian bomber.



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Re: He 111
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2011, 09:59:32 PM »
Its our ground-attack aircraft, but in most cases it can't compete with the Il-2. Its much more difficult to use effectivly, and some never can, it carries only 1 bomb of any considerable size, the 50kg bombs requiring near-direct hits to be effective.


And the G14 isn't used in some scenarios. If I'm in a G6 in a scenario, I want the tater gun, since without it, you have to choose between acceptable manuverability, or good snapshot capability.
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Re: He 111
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2011, 10:02:32 PM »
BIG negative ghost rider.

Our EW bomber set is pathetic, our EW GV set is basicly non-existant, our MW one is lacking, Germany has no ground-attack planes to compete with the IL-2 and the 190F1/U3 would provide us with one. Germany has no assult guns or Tank Destroyers, the Italians have a grand total of 2 aircraft, the Luftwaffe is lacking in late-Earlywar fighters, and the 109G is lacking a spud gun.
Those are gaps, but you display an incredible myopia when you claim that those gaps are bigger that a gaping chasm like the absence of the Ki-43 is to the Pacific and CBI theater settings.

Missing the Ki-43 is like not having any Bf109.

As to early war bombers, your list is a farce if it doesn't have the Wellington on it as well.
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