Hanger Queens

[caldera]

Well if you can't drop flaps, it soon will be. 

Really like the improvement of the P-40C over the B.  Actually doesn't fly like a fully loaded B-24 now.  Ty HTC. 

[Pyro]

Thanks Baumer.

[TwinBoom]

Thanks Baumer.

YES!!!!! Thank you Baumer I owe you  

What are you worried about, 39th FS didn't fly P-40's.

Unit: 39th FS, 31st FG, USAAC
Serial: 12/31P
Selfridge Field, Michigan, 1941.

Check again

 

[ink]

I always thought the flaps in a p 40 came out at 300...so I have been searching, cant find crap, but I did find this very cool write up from a P 40 pilot.

very interesting stuff on zero's in there.


"...A number of Zero's shed their wings
at speeds slightly over 350 IAS mph.  Japanese would not even
attempt a dive that approached 350 IAS.  None of Japan's aircraft
could even stand up to P-40's 30 and 50 caliber guns.  It only
required a few incendiary bullet, even from our 30 cal. guns, to
set fire or explode their aircraft...."

zero's in AH go way faster then whats stated here, without losing much control or parts....

http://yarchive.net/mil/p40.html

[Soulyss]

YES!!!!! Thank you Baumer I owe you  

Unit: 39th FS, 31st FG, USAAC
Serial: 12/31P
Selfridge Field, Michigan, 1941.

Check again
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Forgot about pre-war.

[Karnak]

I always thought the flaps in a p 40 came out at 300...so I have been searching, cant find crap, but I did find this very cool write up from a P 40 pilot.

very interesting stuff on zero's in there.


"...A number of Zero's shed their wings
at speeds slightly over 350 IAS mph.  Japanese would not even
attempt a dive that approached 350 IAS.  None of Japan's aircraft
could even stand up to P-40's 30 and 50 caliber guns.  It only
required a few incendiary bullet, even from our 30 cal. guns, to
set fire or explode their aircraft...."

zero's in AH go way faster then whats stated here, without losing much control or parts....

http://yarchive.net/mil/p40.html

There is a quote out there from an A6M pilot claiming that speed was not an issue in diving the A6M as well.

It may also be that the "Zeroes" mentioned by the P-40 pilot were actually something else.  We IDed a lot of Japanese aircraft as Zeroes when they were not.

[Ack-Ack]

that doesn't mean they couldn't deploy over that speed....this game simulates planes, or their manual?

Name one plane in Aces High that allows you to deploy the flaps over the speed given in the flight manual.  Not talking about real life, but in the game.  Then you'll have your answer on what data is used to govern the deployment speeds for flaps.

ack-ack

[Ack-Ack]

The manual I have specifically states that full flaps can be deployed at or below 140 mph. In the appendix for long range ferry flights, it goes on to state that flaps should not be retracted until past 160 mph. So 140 mph may not be the maximum safe deployment speed.

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I think there is some need to look further into this subject.

This is from a P-40 flight manual published in 1943.  I also have the flight manual for the M and N that also states not to deploy flaps above 140mph.


Here are the links to both P-40 manuals I have.
P-40 manual #1
P-40 manual #2

ack-ack

[MK-84]

     I have  a question...and this question is NOT in any why a veiled attempt at pretending to try to change anything.

Now that that's done with...

     What could happen if a P40 pilot tried to deploy flaps at a higher speed?  Could he?  Structural failure?  Uncontrollable flight characteristics?  This kinda refers to all aircraft really... but...

I'm dumb, and curious

[Yarbles]

Im an American Iron,

 

[guncrasher]

grandpa flew in in the pacific against the Japanese.  he said the p40's sucked no matter what they did against the Japanese airplanes.  not until the f6f came in that they got the upper hand.

semp

[Ack-Ack]

grandpa flew in in the pacific against the Japanese.  he said the p40's sucked no matter what they did against the Japanese airplanes.  not until the f6f came in that they got the upper hand.

semp

Years must have clouded his memory.


ack-ack

[AHTbolt]

I asked my brother about this question hes an exair force pilot, he said that it has  more to do with the flap gear having the power to deploy the flaps against the wind pressure. Air speed has no effect on raising the flaps so you cant compair the two.

[uptown]

I did a little research myself and all I could find is what Akak has already posted up there above. This is not looking good for the home team.  

Come to think of it, I was watching the Military Channel last weekend and they mentioned the P40s in Africa having great success using the boom and zoom tactics against Stukas.

[Baumer]

Ack-Ack, that is interesting because I do not have that in my P-40F & P40L manual.

The manual I have is;

"Pilot's Flight Operating Instructions for Army Model P-40F and P-40L"
T.O. 01-25CH-1
March 10, 1943
Revised June 20, 1943