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Re: Junkers Ju 188
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2013, 01:39:39 PM »
Perhaps the Mossie VI can get its long range fuel tank in the bomb bay option added as well.
I can count the number of time I loaded more than 50% fuel on the VI on the fingers of one hand. The VI gets 17 minutes per 25% at MIL power, so 100% is 68 minutes. That is without the small or the huge DTs available.

A more interesting option would be the 25lbs AP rockets in a two-pairs structure that allows a DT at the same time. The DT will still be an overkill, but the rockets allow another weapon type that leaves less drag than the fixed rails we have now. If the 25lbs AP rockets could also be modeled to travel underwater and puncture ship hulls below the water line for extra damage - now that would be something!

I see the historical point of having the option available, but in AH I've not ever come across a bombing run in which I've needed the extra fuel.  If I take the 6/500 lb bombs the Mossi climbs even faster and gets to the target that much faster, and if I take the cookie I usually add wing tanks depending on the alt I'm going to reach.
The VI is the fighter-bomber version, not the unarmed bomber. It typically needs even less fuel than the bomber for its missions.
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Re: Junkers Ju 188
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2013, 01:44:04 PM »
moin

mmh, why should i fly a 109 if a p51 is in game  ;)

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Re: Junkers Ju 188
« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2013, 02:25:33 PM »
I see the historical point of having the option available, but in AH I've not ever come across a bombing run in which I've needed the extra fuel.  If I take the 6/500 lb bombs the Mossi climbs even faster and gets to the target that much faster, and if I take the cookie I usually add wing tanks depending on the alt I'm going to reach.

I don't know if there was a bomb bay tank available for the Mk XVI.

I can count the number of time I loaded more than 50% fuel on the VI on the fingers of one hand. The VI gets 17 minutes per 25% at MIL power, so 100% is 68 minutes. That is without the small or the huge DTs available.

A more interesting option would be the 25lbs AP rockets in a two-pairs structure that allows a DT at the same time. The DT will still be an overkill, but the rockets allow another weapon type that leaves less drag than the fixed rails we have now. If the 25lbs AP rockets could also be modeled to travel underwater and puncture ship hulls below the water line for extra damage - now that would be something!
The VI is the fighter-bomber version, not the unarmed bomber. It typically needs even less fuel than the bomber for its missions.
Options are good though and, occasionally, I decide to try to pull an extremely long ranged day ranger sortie.  I have run the Mossie VI out of fuel on 100% with the large drop tanks.
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Re: Junkers Ju 188
« Reply #33 on: December 21, 2013, 09:27:09 AM »
In the VI you can load 100%+DT, put it on cruise setting, go watch the Hobbit move, come back and the old wooden girl will still be flying :)
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Re: Junkers Ju 188
« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2013, 10:56:41 AM »
In the VI you can load 100%+DT, put it on cruise setting, go watch the Hobbit move, come back and the old wooden girl will still be flying :)
Drop tanks leave speed draining shackles though....  :p
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Re: Junkers Ju 188
« Reply #35 on: December 24, 2013, 07:00:41 AM »
moin

here comes a view at the weapons load out of a ju88 a14.  exspecialy the mounted gun in the nouse would be nice



this variant would be realy get an multitool in game i the game

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Re: Junkers Ju 188
« Reply #36 on: December 24, 2013, 07:54:09 AM »
More versions of the Ju88 would be very nice.  It was one of the most varied aircraft, perhaps even the most varied, of WWII.  A single variant doesn't do it justice.
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Re: Junkers Ju 188
« Reply #37 on: December 24, 2013, 08:13:40 AM »
moin

here comes a view at the weapons load out of a ju88 a14.  exspecialy the mounted gun in the nouse would be nice



this variant would be realy get an multitool in game i the game

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Did it carry bombs in addition to the guns, or is it a fighter version?
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Re: Junkers Ju 188
« Reply #38 on: December 24, 2013, 10:01:40 AM »
hi

it carrys to bombs beside the waffenbehälter.
i also saw drawings with 3 bombs and one waffen behälter.

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Re: Junkers Ju 188
« Reply #39 on: December 25, 2013, 08:58:19 AM »
Doesn't need to be an A14. All A4s had an option for nose mounted MG FF/M. It just replaced the level bombing sight.

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Re: Junkers Ju 188
« Reply #40 on: December 25, 2013, 01:26:08 PM »
hi

thank you  that means it would not need a new model, jus licke the b25 H and C. 
i realy hope to get these optione one day.

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Re: Junkers Ju 188
« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2013, 03:05:47 AM »
I think more ju88 variants is a very reasonable request, especially since the current 88 is still waiting for a graphics update.

We will need a BoB era 88 because the current one is a later model AFAIK.
Some model with fixed guns as posted above will be nice too.
Is there some definitive "ultimate" late war version to the 88/188/288?
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Re: Junkers Ju 188
« Reply #42 on: December 26, 2013, 04:52:24 PM »
There was no such gunpod on the Ju 88, also at this position at Minimum the outer gun has to fire through the prop arc.
Better use the twin MG FF installation in the forward gondola as used by night fighters. Usage should be possible with rear gunner in place although I'm not 100% sure on this.

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Re: Junkers Ju 188
« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2013, 04:27:52 AM »
hi 

the waffenbehälter are real  and were used. it is a real drawing made from troijka and the gun pot at this position will not have trobel with the propeler.
at the outside position yes but the inner worked.

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Re: Junkers Ju 188
« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2013, 05:36:31 AM »
hi

its not much space you are right.
but the mount of the guns in the gun pood will get the needed space, maybe only some milimeters.


and here some other interestening variants.







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