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Re: B-32
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2011, 03:41:14 AM »
it would be a nice addition to add to a "post-war" arena.

ranging from the years 1946-1949.

There were virtually no B-32s in operation by 1947 as they were being removed from operational service as early as 1945.

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Re: B-32
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2011, 03:43:06 AM »
There were virtually no B-32s in operation by 1947 as they were being removed from operational service as early as 1945.

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but was it not in operation in 1946? that would qualify it to be added. since the arena would span from 1946-1949.

Same way we have EW birds that were retired flying in LW.

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Re: B-32
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2011, 04:31:50 AM »
but was it not in operation in 1946? that would qualify it to be added. since the arena would span from 1946-1949.

Same way we have EW birds that were retired flying in LW.

They were sitting in the desert in Arizona.

Oops. Internet search. They were in Arkansas.

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It is estimated that approximately 10,000 warbirds were flown to Walnut Ridge in 1945 and 1946 for storage and sale. Some sources report the number to be over 11,000. It is reported that at least 67 of the 118 B-32 Heavy Bombers built were flown to Walnut Ridge, many straight from the assembly line. Of the remaining B-32’s, at least 37, perhaps more, were flown to Kingman.

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Re: B-32
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2011, 01:46:22 PM »
but was it not in operation in 1946? that would qualify it to be added. since the arena would span from 1946-1949.

Same way we have EW birds that were retired flying in LW.
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Re: B-32
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2011, 09:33:50 PM »
so is that boxy B24

She's beautiful when viewed inflight from the pilots seat.  :D
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Re: B-32
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2011, 09:41:49 PM »
Question:

     I see that GIANT picture of what appears to be hundreds of planes  just sitting in the desert.  Was this because they were used for parts, or to await scrapping, or because no one knew what else to do with them?  I know its kinda off topic, but why was that done?  Unlike, for example that picture you see of dozens of P38's being bulldozed down a ravine after the war.  (unless that's a SAPP thing)

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Re: B-32
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2011, 10:46:54 PM »
Question:

     I see that GIANT picture of what appears to be hundreds of planes  just sitting in the desert.  Was this because they were used for parts, or to await scrapping, or because no one knew what else to do with them?  I know its kinda off topic, but why was that done?  Unlike, for example that picture you see of dozens of P38's being bulldozed down a ravine after the war.  (unless that's a SAPP thing)

A lot where being used as scrap parts for other air crafts. I know that some of the WWII era bombers where scraped to make mobile homes (not sure how they do it). Other where used as targets and testing. Most of all, it was a cheap way for the military to put planes back into service when needed.

Who cares?  It is a idiotic and pointless wish.  You are asking for an airplane that is as functionally close to the B-29 as possible, same bombload, almost exactly the same speed and very similar guns.  It would take HTC about as much effort to model it as it would take them to do three or four new fighters.  All of that just so you can have a B-29 in a different skin.  That is an absurd wish.

I would not say idiotic.  The individual may not understand where AH staff stands on when it comes to developing new AC or GVs into the game.
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Re: B-32
« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2011, 01:00:26 AM »
Question:

     I see that GIANT picture of what appears to be hundreds of planes  just sitting in the desert.  Was this because they were used for parts, or to await scrapping, or because no one knew what else to do with them?  I know its kinda off topic, but why was that done?  Unlike, for example that picture you see of dozens of P38's being bulldozed down a ravine after the war.  (unless that's a SAPP thing)

It's all in the Walnut Ridge website if you explored a bit:

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The WWII Aircraft Boneyards

In  1945  the  RFC  established  five  large  storage,  sales  and scrapping  centers  for  Army  Air  Forces  aircraft.  These  were located at:  Albuquerque, NM;  Altus, OK;  Kingman, AZ;  Ontario, CA; and Walnut Ridge, AR. A sixth facility for storing, selling and scrapping Navy and Marine aircraft was located at Clinton, OK.

General sales were conducted from these centers; however, the idea for long term storage, considering the approximate cost of $20 per month per aircraft, was soon discarded, and in June, 1946, the remaining aircraft, except those at Altus, were put up for scrap bid. 

It is estimated that approximately 10,000 warbirds were flown to Walnut Ridge in 1945 and 1946 for storage and sale. Some sources report the number to be over 11,000. It is reported that at least 67 of the 118 B-32 Heavy Bombers built were flown to Walnut Ridge, many straight from the assembly line. Of the remaining B-32’s, at least 37, perhaps more, were flown to Kingman.

Four thousand, eight hundred and seventy-one (4,871) of the aircraft stored at Walnut Ridge, primarily fighters and bombers, were sold to Texas Railway Equipment Company in September 1946, to be scrapped.  The bid price was $1,838,798.19. On the southwest corner of the ramp, two giant smelters were constructed to melt the scrap aluminum, which was formed into huge ingots for shipping.

The aircraft at Altus were put up for scrap bid in 1947, and sold on May 12, 1947, to Esperado Mining Company of Walnut Ridge. (Probably owned in whole or part by Texas Railway Equipment Company, the  company  that  scrapped the warbirds at Walnut Ridge.)

By late 1947 scrapping had been completed at Clinton and the big five scrapping facilities, except Altus, which finished by mid 1948.

The tens of thousands of proud warbirds that had survived the enemy fighter planes and fierce anti-aircraft fire could not escape the smelters at Albuquerque, Altus, Kingman, Ontario, Walnut Ridge and Clinton.   

At Walnut Ridge, the two smelters used to turn the proud Warbirds into aluminum ingots were torn down about 1951.  In 1952 the City of Walnut Ridge used the firebricks from the smelters to construct an administration/terminal building on the site of the WWII Base Operations building.




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Re: B-32
« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2011, 10:08:50 AM »
I would love to see that added to aces high! and yes i did see actual combat and drop bombs but mostly it was marine patrol!
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Re: B-32
« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2011, 10:11:25 AM »
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Re: B-32
« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2011, 01:00:54 PM »
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Re: B-32
« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2011, 01:03:01 PM »
It was not in squadron strength, so far as I know.

Most importantly, however, it would be a large amount of work for a unit that is redundant next to the B-29.  There is no reason to add it.

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I say it should see Aces High skies many moons from now. It does have a place, maybe less perks than a B-29 and not as fragile?

ibut t looks like a B-26 mated with a B-29, does it not?
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Re: B-32
« Reply #42 on: October 24, 2011, 02:54:25 PM »
gawd, between the b-32 and the b-24 did Consolidated go out of their way to make the ugliest planes possible?
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Re: B-32
« Reply #43 on: October 24, 2011, 03:19:44 PM »
That boneyard. If there were any reasons for a time machine it would be mostly to buy those up.

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Re: B-32
« Reply #44 on: October 24, 2011, 08:04:36 PM »
gawd, between the b-32 and the b-24 did Consolidated go out of their way to make the ugliest planes possible?


You are obviously one with little aircraft aesthetic taste!   :D
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