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Offline Tank-Ace

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Re: Would 1X Fuel burn rate be good for the game?
« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2011, 06:10:30 PM »
-1 to the 2.5x fuel burn rate. That would really hurt some planes like the Spits (would enjoy it), lala's (neutral), and the 190's (big negative).
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Re: Would 1X Fuel burn rate be good for the game?
« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2011, 09:52:18 PM »
Is there anything that's really wrong with the current MA fuel settings?
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Re: Would 1X Fuel burn rate be good for the game?
« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2011, 10:07:06 PM »
Is it just me or does anyone else think that this thread is missing a graph ? Where's Leusche ?
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Re: Would 1X Fuel burn rate be good for the game?
« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2011, 10:25:56 PM »
163s would be able to go 8 grids, instead of just 4, La7s noe to the HQ and P-51Ds crossing the map on a 1/4 tank.  No thanks.

163's aren't affected by Fuel Burn rate last I checked IIRC.

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Re: Would 1X Fuel burn rate be good for the game?
« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2011, 03:20:01 AM »
Is there anything that's really wrong with the current MA fuel settings?
It seems like some people are flying on 100%, take the time to monkey-climb up to 30k and run out of gas before running out of ammo. That can't be right.
In reality the burn rate is x1 and pilots never look at their fuel gauge.
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Re: Would 1X Fuel burn rate be good for the game?
« Reply #50 on: October 25, 2011, 08:14:27 AM »
I like it at x2.  I sympathize with those that like to fly the La5/La7 though.

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Re: Would 1X Fuel burn rate be good for the game?
« Reply #51 on: October 25, 2011, 12:34:50 PM »
Anyone complaining about fuel burn rate being too high should climb to historical altitudes.

After someone on the forums helped me out, I can climb a spit XIV to near 30,000 feet or higher and still have 30 minutes of fuel at max throttle.

With the XIV, once you are at high speed and level, you can decrease with the minus sign and still maintain 400mph with near 40 minutes worth of fuel.

Some planes don't respond to pulling them back with the minus sign, though.

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Re: Would 1X Fuel burn rate be good for the game?
« Reply #52 on: October 25, 2011, 01:03:12 PM »
It seems like some people are flying on 100%, take the time to monkey-climb up to 30k and run out of gas before running out of ammo. That can't be right.
In reality the burn rate is x1 and pilots never look at their fuel gauge.

I assume your being sarcastic?
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Re: Would 1X Fuel burn rate be good for the game?
« Reply #53 on: October 25, 2011, 03:34:35 PM »
icepac said it correct: manage throttle and the ranges (and time in the air) are increased.  The Spitfires are the best example of this.  The La5/7 can get 10-15 more mins easily if their testoserone was not ramped up so high during the climb out.  Throttle back.  The authors of the "no way" responses fret because heaven forbid if they have to manage (worry) something they currently worry nothing about.  

The 2X burn rate in the MA is not enough.  The is not any aircraft in AH that would be grounded or even have its effectiveness reduced because of a slight increase in burn rate.  The La's would still be the low altitude interceptors they were designed to be.  

That, or less dramatic for the La fan bois would be to actually make fuel tanks a legit target as I've already made a case for: 2nd fuel tank = no DT; 3rd fuel tank = %75 max; 4th fuel tank = %50 max.

C'mon HTC... live a little!!!  Mix it up!  Add another strategic element to the game!!!  Make fuel an issue!!!!  :aok :D
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Re: Would 1X Fuel burn rate be good for the game?
« Reply #54 on: October 25, 2011, 05:42:51 PM »
why not try something around 1.5 or 1.75 just to tweak it. Or just leave it alone. No need to wind up like NETFLIX.

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Re: Would 1X Fuel burn rate be good for the game?
« Reply #55 on: October 25, 2011, 05:47:26 PM »
Is there anything that's really wrong with the current MA fuel settings?

the multiplier - no :)
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Re: Would 1X Fuel burn rate be good for the game?
« Reply #56 on: October 25, 2011, 06:32:11 PM »
No need to wind up like NETFLIX.

Man that stock has gotten slaughtered!  Rightly so, in my opinion.

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Re: Would 1X Fuel burn rate be good for the game?
« Reply #57 on: October 26, 2011, 08:06:23 PM »
I consider less than 30 to be somewhat short, less than 25 to be noticably short, and anything nearing 20 to be extremely short.

This is without DTs, mind you. Spit9 without DT is in the 25 minute range, right? "Noticably short" (going from memory). I know that changes some things, but not all planes have DTs, and some suffer drag from the rack a lot more than others do.

Being in the air for a minimum of 30 mins in a Spitfire is a long time.  The Spitfire 8 is up and over 40 mins with a DT.  The thing about the Spitfires is fuel consumption drastically decreases with just a slight bit of throttle management, and it seems more so than other aircraft.

Here is my suggestion: With the current 2X burn rate, omit the DT's for the time being and make a chart (call Looshy if you need help) as see just how many fighters have times of 20-30min, 30-40, 40-50, and 50+. Then add DT's and then see where it goes.  US and Japanese have some major ranges (P51D/P47N win!), while the British and Germans can hang out between 30-50mins easy.
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Re: Would 1X Fuel burn rate be good for the game?
« Reply #58 on: October 26, 2011, 08:23:25 PM »
Like I said, those with DTs fare better, spits best of all (almost no drag penalty for dogfighting with your tank on!), and it was a generalization. Some planes suffer from DT rather badly, and it is better to leave it off, such as when I fly Fw190As.

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Re: Would 1X Fuel burn rate be good for the game?
« Reply #59 on: October 27, 2011, 04:10:00 AM »
Like I said, those with DTs fare better, spits best of all (almost no drag penalty for dogfighting with your tank on!), and it was a generalization. Some planes suffer from DT rather badly, and it is better to leave it off, such as when I fly Fw190As.
Try the DT on the F6F. It has very large volume, but also more drag then "priscilla queen of the desert".
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