Big wolf

[mtnman]

I guess I'm just sick of people sticking up for wolves when I know damn well that the population is out of hand.

Watch, they will be de-listed in this state by spring.

Um, you realize that "de-listed" does not equate to "out of hand" or "over-populated", right?

Bravo for MI if they're able to de-list them.  It doesn't mean they'll automatically allow wolves to be hunted.  And if they do allow wolves to be hunted, they won't be allowed to take the wolf population too low again, anyway.  It goes back to that "responsibility" idea again.

What makes you so certain their population is out of hand, anyway?  If it really is, have you notified the proper authorities yet?  I'm sure they'll take your information at face-value.  After all, you've trekked around, right?

My deer hunting has been impacted by wolves as well.  I love deer hunting, and I'm seeing far fewer deer, especially in certain parts of the state.  I'm just not so sure that it means the wolves are "out of hand".

[Tyrannis]

Wow, less than 1 page and melvin was already raging. Havent seen that before.


IMO, if any Animal needs a population check, its Humanity, not Wolves.

[Tank-Ace]

Wow melvin, for someone whos not a "city boy" like you called INK, you sure show a lot of ignorance for the state of things.

As Mtnman said, de-listed doesn't mean out of control. We'll have to watch the wolf population for a bit to make sure it doesn't dip too low again.


If you think its your god given right to be able to take a deer every season, theres something wrong with you. If you're good enough, you'll usually get one, but even then its not a sure thing. watermelon happens man.

[PuppetZ]

I've been reading with interest.

Now let's talk about poachers 

[AWwrgwy]

This one (shot in Edson) supposedly weighed in at 197 lbs and was atracted to (according to the manufacturer's website) Grim's Monster Mix bear bait.

So much for "hunting".



wrongway

[skorpion]

IMO, if any Animal needs a population check, its Humanity, not Wolves.

so your saying you want a massive human kill-off?

[Tyrannis]

so your saying you want a massive human kill-off?

Nope, but we need to stop being rabbits when it comes to breeding.
Otherwise we'll be in trouble fast. Just look at china.

[Dichotomy]

so your saying you want a massive human kill-off?

As long as I get to pick the recipients  

[PFactorDave]

and I'm seeing far fewer deer, especially in certain parts of the state. 

They must have all moved South.  The deer are what's getting out of hand down here in central Illinois.  I'm seeing large groups of deer in populated areas the last few years.  I don't know what it is like state wide, but I was talking to a policeman friend a few weeks ago, and the deer/car collisions are waaaaaay up in my area.

[morfiend]

 Most dont know we have 2 kinds of wolves and coyotes and wolf coyote hybreds,then throw in some domestic dog into the coyote mix too.

  The eastern red wolf was considered extinct in North America until they recently discovered that the smallest timber wolves in Algonquin park are in fact red wolves and not timber wolves.If not for protecting these animals in a small area we might have lost the red wolf completely. I dont think there are any plans to relocate or re-habitate this population like they did with Timber wolves in Yellowstone. Sadly any animal that leaves the park is fair game during hunting season but they are pretty common at this point.

  We could actually use some wolves in southern Ontario,we have plenty of coyotes but they dont take many deer and we are over populated with deer. They starve in winter,get hit by cars and have become a nuisance.If fact I live in a large city and we have over 100 deer living in the city and their population just keeps growing. Several provincial parks have to preform deer culls because the populations have grown so large there isnt enough forage for them,I've seen them eating people front lawns in the early mourning's more time than I can count.

  Killing anything just because isnt right in my book and justifying it with comment of feeding the eagles is utter nonsense.




    

[rogwar]

I've been reading with interest.

Now let's talk about poachers 

Feed them to the wolves.

[Tyrannis]

They must have all moved South.  The deer are what's getting out of hand down here in central Illinois.  I'm seeing large groups of deer in populated areas the last few years.  I don't know what it is like state wide, but I was talking to a policeman friend a few weeks ago, and the deer/car collisions are waaaaaay up in my area.

In ohio also, Theres multiple deaths from deers running out in the middle of the roads here. My cousin himself hit a deer twice. Totaled both his cars.

Our county usually holds an extended hunting time (atleast, thats what i think they call it) due to how badly the population has gotten.

[saggs]

so your saying you want a massive human kill-off?

We DO have perfectly legal mass human kill off...  to the order of 40-50 million killed every year.

[mtnman]

My cousin himself hit a deer twice.

Dang!  I've only ever hit a deer once, and I've hit quite a few!  Did he turn around to hit it the second time, or just back over it?

I've even had three of them that hit me!  One pooped all down the side of my wife's van, and one left it's nose-print on my gas cap cover.  

I've been debating buying a motorcycle for my 40 mile commute each way to work, but the deer scare me.  On a normal day I can easily see 10-15 deer near or crossing the road, and commonly see far more.  In the winter it's normal to see up to 100 in the fields within the first mile driving away from my house.

That may seem like a lot of deer, but it really is a reduced number from what we had prior to our earn-a-buck program, and a few wolves here and there.

It's also common to have tall grass, corn, or brush right up close to the road, so you get little or no warning before the deer launch out in front of you.  I consider myself lucky; my wife and I haven't hit more than a dozen or so combined over the last 10 years, and only a handful caused any real damage.

[Tyrannis]

Dang!  I've only ever hit a deer once, and I've hit quite a few!  Did he turn around to hit it the second time, or just back over it?

I've even had three of them that hit me!  One pooped all down the side of my wife's van, and one left it's nose-print on my gas cap cover.  

I've been debating buying a motorcycle for my 40 mile commute each way to work, but the deer scare me.  On a normal day I can easily see 10-15 deer near or crossing the road, and commonly see far more.  In the winter it's normal to see up to 100 in the fields within the first mile driving away from my house.

That may seem like a lot of deer, but it really is a reduced number from what we had prior to our earn-a-buck program, and a few wolves here and there.

It's also common to have tall grass, corn, or brush right up close to the road, so you get little or no warning before the deer launch out in front of you.  I consider myself lucky; my wife and I haven't hit more than a dozen or so combined over the last 10 years, and only a handful caused any real damage.

I ment that he's hit 2 deers.  Both totaled each of his cars that he was in.

The deers get bad here in ohio. Their even all over the center of town. My house alone has scratches and dents on the outside from them.