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Re: Police officer taking aout the wing of a small aircraft with his car.
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2011, 01:01:43 PM »
All he had to do was ping the rudder/elevator.

Those surfaces can be wiped out by a fat person walking into them.

With my luck if I had been that officer I would have bumped the elevator to disable it but instead it would go full up, the airplane would lift off, stall and crash killing everyone and I'd be buried by unlawful death lawsuits.   :t
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Re: Police officer taking aout the wing of a small aircraft with his car.
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2011, 01:04:59 PM »

It wasn't a suicidal maneuver...your over reacting.

Ditto!  There's always an "expert" who knows better than the guy who was there and trained to do the job.
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Re: Police officer taking aout the wing of a small aircraft with his car.
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2011, 01:10:03 PM »
MachFly seems to be the resident expert on the use of force.   :headscratch:  Perhaps he has lots of experience in the use of force, or was educated in the use of force, or perhaps is just highly opinionated on the matter???  Or perhaps he knows what happened prior to the video, or what the history was of the known pilot, or owner of the aircraft, or he knew that the passengers of the aircraft were nuns from the local charity?

MachFly just seems to be able to judge from afar, know all the details, and is righteous in his decisions.  Anyone else notice this?   

Yes, I have also noticed that.



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Re: Police officer taking aout the wing of a small aircraft with his car.
« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2011, 01:30:11 PM »
Risky? Maybe.  Suicidal?  A bit harsh of a word, imo. 

Perhaps the LEO driver of the car was a licensed pilot as well?  Perhaps he knew exactly how fragile that aircraft was due to extensive research on the aircraft prior to the move to arrest was made.  We don't know anything other than what the video shows and therefore we all should hesitate and remember that hindsight is always 20/20, even when the details of the event we look at seem to be cleared, cut, and dried.   
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Re: Police officer taking aout the wing of a small aircraft with his car.
« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2011, 01:40:44 PM »
Risky? Maybe.  Suicidal?  A bit harsh of a word, imo. 

Perhaps the LEO driver of the car was a licensed pilot as well?  Perhaps he knew exactly how fragile that aircraft was due to extensive research on the aircraft prior to the move to arrest was made.  We don't know anything other than what the video shows and therefore we all should hesitate and remember that hindsight is always 20/20, even when the details of the event we look at seem to be cleared, cut, and dried.   

Well said, sir.  Law enforcement in itself is a risky business.



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Re: Police officer taking aout the wing of a small aircraft with his car.
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2011, 01:58:47 PM »
Well said, sir.  Law enforcement in itself is a risky business.

Thanks.  FWIW, I wore the star of a deputy and PD officer in Iowa for almost 7 years.   ;)

Anyone ever see the entire video of the Rodney King video?  That video is the poster child for making judgement calls on "only what is seen", or more so what the media shows you.  ;)
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Re: Police officer taking aout the wing of a small aircraft with his car.
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2011, 02:29:22 PM »
Thanks for your service, sir!  :salute  :salute

There is always way more to the story and facts than what the camera shows.  The "experts" who second guess those who were actually there are only fooling themselves.
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Re: Police officer taking aout the wing of a small aircraft with his car.
« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2011, 03:02:02 PM »
bring back the p-51 for special operations to stop illegal flights of non jet aircraft
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Re: Police officer taking aout the wing of a small aircraft with his car.
« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2011, 08:48:29 AM »
They have the super tucano.

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Re: Police officer taking aout the wing of a small aircraft with his car.
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2011, 09:44:07 AM »

It wasn't a suicidal maneuver...your over reacting.

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Re: Police officer taking aout the wing of a small aircraft with his car.
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2011, 01:58:09 PM »
:rofl

Brilliant

In UK they have just passed a law whereby you can use maximum force to defend your home. :old:


Too bad that law isnt in effect here in the US
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Re: Police officer taking aout the wing of a small aircraft with his car.
« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2011, 02:03:14 PM »
Thanks.  FWIW, I wore the star of a deputy and PD officer in Iowa for almost 7 years.   ;)

Anyone ever see the entire video of the Rodney King video?  That video is the poster child for making judgement calls on "only what is seen", or more so what the media shows you.  ;)

I have a little over 4 yrs as a LEO and I am still one at the present time. I know exaclty what you mean with the RK video. The academy that I graduated from shows the full video to ever class, and the class has to disect it.
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Re: Police officer taking aout the wing of a small aircraft with his car.
« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2011, 02:28:18 PM »
The Cherokee that they destroyed cost 80-100K, plus all the 150K of stolen electronics inside. It was a suicidal maneuver that was absolutely not worth it the risk, I am surprised those cops were not decapitated.
He had a lot more than two options, and other options are a lot safer. He could have used the pit maneuver on the tail, would have worked just like with a car, could have used that M4 to take out the tires, and could have passed him and shot the pilot. 


It was a bit cowboy, but made for a great film.

I'm not sure about the decapitation factor...  I know what is going into the wings as I build my plane.  .032 spars, .025 ribs and .025 skin.  The capping on my windows on the house is the same thickness  :noid

The struts are really the only steel on the wings which are attached to the frame which is chromoly, and that is pretty gooey stuff.
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