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Offline Krusty

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Re: was the 410 50mm ever used for tank busting?
« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2011, 07:11:04 PM »
You might as well compare a Luger to a Beretta M9, or even an MP5, because the rounds are so similar, right?

It's not even a close comparison, sorry!  :uhoh

One was an added option to boost firepower on a Zerstorer aircraft, hunting down bombers. The other literally had the entire airplane designed AROUND it, taking up most of the internal framework of the airplane itself, and is to date the most feared anti-tank platform in the skies.


So, yeah.... They're both 30mm so they're the same. Okay. (Sarcasm! alert! sarcasm! alert!)



[Edit: Sorry if the above is "too much" but.... somebody had to say it! Back to the Me410 BK5 discussion!)
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Offline Tank-Ace

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Re: was the 410 50mm ever used for tank busting?
« Reply #46 on: November 11, 2011, 09:47:11 PM »
How the weapon is employed isn't really important if they achieve the same thing. In war, its results that matter, not how those results are achieved.
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Re: was the 410 50mm ever used for tank busting?
« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2011, 09:36:52 AM »
"Where'd you get the Hispano's muzzle velocity of 775?  I've always seen 880m/sec and once 860m/sec for the Mk II."

Flying guns of WW2, Anthony Williams and Emmanuel Gustin. Page 313.

850-880m/s for Mk2 HE, 820-850m/s for MkV HE.

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Re: was the 410 50mm ever used for tank busting?
« Reply #48 on: November 12, 2011, 10:41:16 AM »
Quote from: Charge on November 12, 2011, 09:36:52 AM
"Where'd you get the Hispano's muzzle velocity of 775?  I've always seen 880m/sec and once 860m/sec for the Mk II."

Flying guns of WW2, Anthony Williams and Emmanuel Gustin. Page 313.

850-880m/s for Mk2 HE, 820-850m/s for MkV HE.

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Yes, I have those books.  Those numbers are both significantly above the 775m/sec.
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Re: was the 410 50mm ever used for tank busting?
« Reply #49 on: November 14, 2011, 06:21:21 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on November 10, 2011, 06:08:02 PM
The A-10 has nothing to do with the Me410. False comparison.


Bab, see Karnak's reply  :O He's right!

You both completley missed my point for the request.  I'm aware of the other discussion that you both are too.  Those 234s in that discussion didn't have their rearward firing cannons that we know of, but a number did have the persicope that served two practical functions on the high-speed bombers....  yes?...   

Edit:  Now are we seeing the same similarities between the 410 scope sight and a 234 periscope as a single functionality within AH?

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Re: was the 410 50mm ever used for tank busting?
« Reply #50 on: November 14, 2011, 06:25:30 PM »
<sidetrack> The other use was for aiming bombs in shallow (shallow, 10 degrees, wasn't it?) dives. It never worked well at that, if I recall. AH already has the bombsight for level bombing built in. Not sure what the point was. If not that, yes you're right I missed the point. </sidetrack>
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