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Offline Tyrannis

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Re: De-acking hurts
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2011, 02:05:10 AM »
:huh  A town?   :lol  Eight guns.  :lol   :bhead  :lol  :rolleyes:

I challenge you to post a film decking a small airfield, all guns auto and manned, using a P anything or an F anything.  Or, if you thing you're up for it, deack a medium air field. :)

Want to see a film of a Spitfire deacking a medium air field? :aok  :D
Think about what you just said.
a Spitfire, with 2 20mm cannons, and 2 little .303 guns, can deack a medium airfield.
Are you trying to say something as buffed up as say, a p47, with rockets+ 8x.50 cals cant? :rolleyes:

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Re: De-acking hurts
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2011, 02:10:43 AM »
Think about what you just said.
a Spitfire, with 2 20mm cannons, and 2 little .303 guns, can deack a medium airfield.
Are you trying to say something as buffed up as say, a p47, with rockets+ 8x.50 cals cant? :rolleyes:

Maybe it can.  I do not know.  But am sure a spitfire can having done it.  I'll have to try it with a p47, p51, or f4u to see.  :headscratch:

I just hear some make fun of a spitfire deacking a base as if it has trouble doing it.   It is actually very good at it if flown right.  :aok
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Re: De-acking hurts
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2011, 08:13:02 AM »
I saw a p47 launch 11 missiles the other day deacking a large and undefended base.

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Re: De-acking hurts
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2011, 03:07:08 PM »
Did I miss something?
What's so special about Midway de-acking? We all do it, we all get shot, and we all don't survive 30mm hits. I understand you can make fun of someone for HOing in a Spit, but there is nothing special about de-acking.

There really is nothing special about de-acking, except for Midway making a thread about "pwnage":

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,323138.0.html

Just trying to keep the lad's ego in check.   :)
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Re: De-acking hurts
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2011, 04:18:46 PM »
But I often successfully deack an entire small or medium air field so when I fail they like to talk about it.  :D

Sure you do, haha, I've had you up and I had a fully loaded P-47 and de-acked the whole base. You must have taken off half a dozen times, because I vulched you with rockets.  :D

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Re: De-acking hurts
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2011, 04:40:32 PM »
I hate to agree with midway but the spit is a great deacker. the 20mm has plenty of splash and great ballistics, you can snipe acks from way out with 1 round, 2 if you want to be sure. it doesnt lose much E porpoising to evade the guns and rebuilds E for repeated strafing runs very easily. I'd take a single 20mm in any plane for deacking over .50s and I fly the jug a fair bit.
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Re: De-acking hurts
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2011, 04:46:08 PM »
That photo-shopped in Midway name Tag was a pretty witty week's work....




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Re: De-acking hurts
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2011, 04:53:00 PM »
There really is nothing special about de-acking, except for Midway making a thread about "pwnage":

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,323138.0.html

Just trying to keep the lad's ego in check.   :)

I missed that thread. Got it.  :lol
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Re: De-acking hurts
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2011, 04:54:15 PM »
Think about what you just said.
a Spitfire, with 2 20mm cannons, and 2 little .303 guns, can deack a medium airfield.
Are you trying to say something as buffed up as say, a p47, with rockets+ 8x.50 cals cant? :rolleyes:

It's a lot easier to de-ack with canons than 50cals. Even if you have 8 of them.
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Re: De-acking hurts
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2011, 04:54:19 PM »
Official RLM list of procedures for de-acking a base:

1) approach the base from no less than 4000 ft
2) always start on the edges, working your way toward the center
3) maintain airspeed through the pass, don't make any hard turns, and extend beyond ack range
4) zoom upwards with any remaining speed, and loop over the top to make a second pass
5) pray to god the AA gunners are all too toasted to see
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: De-acking hurts
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2011, 04:55:59 PM »
Official RLM list of procedures for de-acking a base:

1) approach the base from no less than 4000 ft
2) always start on the edges, working your way toward the center
3) maintain airspeed through the pass, don't make any hard turns, and extend beyond ack range
4) zoom upwards with any remaining speed, and loop over the top to make a second pass
5) pray to god the AA gunners are all too toasted to see

RLM:  Reichsluftfahrtministerium?

Is step 5 really and official procedure?
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Re: De-acking hurts
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2011, 05:00:11 PM »
Of course.

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You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: De-acking hurts
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2011, 05:01:44 PM »
"Now, if I had to make the choice of one fighter aircraft above all the others...it would be, without any doubt, the world's greatest propeller driven flying machine - the magnificent and immortal Spitfire."
Lt. Col. William R. Dunn
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Re: De-acking hurts
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2011, 05:14:46 PM »
 ...... can't tell if you're seriously thinking they would put that in a manual, or if you're just playing along with the joke.


No, its not actually on the list. Infact, there is no list of procedures that I'm aware of.

If there were, the propoganda would already have stated that the AA gunners are either incompetent or too drunk to see, and so therefore the pilot is invincible, so the 'pray' item would be a contradiction to previous statments. German propoganda may be full of BS, but its smart BS, if you know what I mean.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: De-acking hurts
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2011, 05:29:02 PM »
Ok, you all want to know what the best de-acking machine is?

BF110 with the dual 30s and (not sure how many) 20mms and 7.62s..

P-47

P-39