8,8 Flack

[chris3]

moin

we need a havey flack for ouer gvs so thay can fight his gv fight.

if somwere spawns a gv it is mostly down if a il2 ups, ostwinds and wirbels dont help much. il2 eats them easily up.
if we get a anti aircraft gun which can kill easy airplans as the airplanens can kill gvs we will get a nice fighting ballance i think.

the 8,8 should be carryed with a halftrack and can only shoot when it is deployed. maybe perk it but i think it will improfe the gameplay.

cu christian

[EVZ]

the 8,8 should be carryed with a halftrack and can only shoot when it is deployed. maybe perk it but i think it will improfe the gameplay.

I would really love to reach out and touch some of the Alt Monkey Bombers coming over at 12K, 15K, 20K + ... Seems like the germans had guns that would do this and they killed their share of 17s and 24s ... A deployable 88 AA shouldn't be to hard to work up? Give the bombers something to think about besides calibrating their bombsights?   

[Tank-Ace]

Wirbs and Osties will tear hell out of any IL2 dumb enough to venture within about 1.5k. That said, a suicide JABO plane is nearly impossible to stop with anything short of a 5" gun (even then, its not a sure thing).

+1.



For nay sayers, bear in mind that it would be much less effective than the 5" guns on the CV.

1) much smaller shell, which means it would need to hit very close to you

2) no proxy fuzes. the gunner will have to set the range for his fuze (which will be difficult, since range is not constant, and so he will have to guess your distance at the point of intercept)

3) no armor. It will be as easy to destroy as an auto gun.

[alpini13]

  Some how this post reminds me of the translated de-coded message from the zodiac killer......hmmm.

[AWwrgwy]

  Some how this post reminds me of the translated de-coded message from the zodiac killer......hmmm.

Type your reply in passable German.

RE: 88 AAA.

No proximity fuzes. 



wrongway

[titanic3]

IMO, it would be better as an anti tank gun, the main reason it was designed for. Since we have 17LBers on GV fields, why not place the 88MM on airfields. As far as I know, there's already a model for them, on the HQ building.

[SmokinLoon]

IMO, it would be better as an anti tank gun, the main reason it was designed for. Since we have 17LBers on GV fields, why not place the 88MM on airfields. As far as I know, there's already a model for them, on the HQ building.

You mean to tell me the German 88mm we all know and love was designed as an anti-tank gun from the very beginning?????  Seriously???    

[gyrene81]

IMO, it would be better as an anti tank gun, the main reason it was designed for. Since we have 17LBers on GV fields, why not place the 88MM on airfields. As far as I know, there's already a model for them, on the HQ building.

you might want to check your resources again, the ones you got that information from are a bit faulty.

[titanic3]

Ah whoops. 

Well still, I see no purpose in having a downgraded AAA gun from our 5in. Maybe for Scenarios or Snapshots.

[Devonai]

Type your reply in passable German.

Ich will hundert Rhesusaffen erwürgen.

[Tank-Ace]

Ah whoops. 

Well still, I see no purpose in having a downgraded AAA gun from our 5in. Maybe for Scenarios or Snapshots.

Yeah, because HTC is going to give us spawnable 5" AA guns  . We're not talking about replacing the guns on ships or anything (strats already use german guns), we're talking about getting spawnable, player controlled AAA weapons.

Good candidates would be:

8,8cm FlaK 36
90mm M2
Cannone da 90/53

All would have roughly comperable preformance, and all would be usefull for relativly mobile heavy AA defense.

[RTHolmes]

+1

I'd like to see lots more acks like the 88, 3.7" QF etc. but only as long as they are modelled correctly so they never really hit anything like in WWII. it would look nice

[Fox]

The US 90mm AA might be a better choice over the German 88 because it used proximity fuse shells toward the end of the war. 

[titanic3]

Yeah, because HTC is going to give us spawnable 5" AA guns  . We're not talking about replacing the guns on ships or anything (strats already use german guns), we're talking about getting spawnable, player controlled AAA weapons.

I didn't say I'd like to see the AAA version, just the anti-tank version. Put some around airfields, make it harder for GVs to just stroll onto a field.

[Tank-Ace]

Well still, I see no purpose in having a downgraded AAA gun from our 5in. Maybe for Scenarios or Snapshots.

This is what I was talking about.


And there are no dedicated AT versions of the German or Italian weapons. The USA made the M3 90mm AT gun, but it would have preformance roughly comperable to the 88mm on the Tiger.


By the way, why would you not want AAA guns? bomb****ing is a problem in AH.