Henschel Hs 129

[Karnak]

I don't think Krusty is saying it isn't a valid addition.  I think he is saying it isn't a very useful addition.

[Tank-Ace]

Ah, but that simply isn't the case. It would offer Il-2 style tank busting at longer ranges (due to the center line mounting) with probably a bit better survivability.

Hs 129 with the 75mm firing AP would probably be even better, preformance drop be damned. No other aerial cannon could offer the ability to one-shot tanks from the front. It could even kill the King Tiger without having to aim for specific weak spots.

[Krusty]

See Rule #4

[Tank-Ace]

It wouldn't really be leathal as the NS-37. IIRC, it would be comperable to the 40mm Vickers S Gun on the hurricane IID.

Good aginst Panzer IV F's, and other light armored/soft targets, but a T-34 would probably be safe for the most part.


And the TseTse was being considered apparently, perhaps still is, yet the low production numbers of only 18 were built and 27 total aircraft built/converted didn't seem to disqualify it.


Also, I remember Pyro or one of the HTC crew saying that as long as individual weapons are correct for an aircraft variant, overall use of those weapons, and wether or not multiple weapons were used in combination is ignored.

[Karnak]

Effect on the game is considered though and if the Hs129 with the 75mm cannon would have a substantially negative effect on the tank game, plinking highly perked Tiger IIs with reasonable expectation of success for example, it very well could be left out.

[Guppy35]

Krusty, sorry, but if the Glostor Metor never having shot down an enemy aircraft in combat (note: aircraft, not guided bomb) doesn't disqualify it from being in the game, low production numbers, and relative lack of use shouldn't keep the Hs 129 out of the game.

You don't like us talking about the BK 37? Fine, say it wasn't used, and then offer an alternative if it existed *cough*Mk 103*cough*.

Point is stop being so dismisive of the aircraft. It would be a better use of HTC's time than about 1/2 the EW crap that almost never gets flown.

That I would disagree with.  There are things going on in AH beyond the MA and those early war birds get used.  While I have no problem with the HS-129, you seem to forget that while it's up and about lugging a 75mm cannon in your vision, there will be guys in other birds saying, 'easy kill' when they see it.  And I don't think the tankers will have a problem with fighter guys clobbering it when they see it out to shoot tanks.

I would speculate that it would get about as much use if not less then those 'early war' birds you refer to.

[Tank-Ace]

Effect on the game is considered though and if the Hs129 with the 75mm cannon would have a substantially negative effect on the tank game, plinking highly perked Tiger IIs with reasonable expectation of success for example, it very well could be left out.

Perfect excuse to implement perked ordnance load outs. Something that would be usefull, and we get a 2 fer 1 with this.

[Megalodon]

There were about 25 Hs-129B-3's that cane from the factory, delivered. A few more B-2's that were field mods.

There were about 200 109F-4 that came from the factory with gondolas, we cant have those..... so I wouldnt count on the 75mm Hs-129.

[JAG]

Just to be annoying, here is another pic of the 3,7cm Hs-129:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGcmOGbhKqA&feature=related

2:41

Or just give the Ju-88 its twin 3,7cm option... it would still be more survivable than the Stuka.