Lusche question Aces "High?"

[Tilt]

I wonder how the pie diagram would look re ride popularity if vehicles's were thrown in the same pie chart as aircraft.

How does  e.g. a Panzer MKIV compare to a P51d in terms of usage?

[Krusty]

Considering you can up, die, up, die, up, die, in a perfectly normal GV fight within 5 minutes and be happy, while possibly getting some kills yourself, it doesn't compare to airplanes. You'd be surprised the numbers the Panzer got back when it was the main ride. Something like 30,000+ kills per tour if I recall.


It's because the 2 games are totally different in the dynamics of how you play them. Sorties take a lot longer in airplanes, and because of that you're going to have less deaths (and somebody somewhere is getting less kills) so the overall numbers are much lower.

This is just pulled from memory, but I did some personal comparisons a while back before all the new tanks were added (after T-34/85, though).

[Butcher]

I wonder how the pie diagram would look re ride popularity if vehicles's were thrown in the same pie chart as aircraft.

How does  e.g. a Panzer MKIV compare to a P51d in terms of usage?

Well taking from my stats I would say could be used a "generic" idea

Most tanks killed I have in order:
Panzer 4H 610
Panzer 4F 238
T34/85 186
Wirbelwind 160
M4a3(75) 117
M4a3(76) 94
T34/76 63
M18 59
Osti 31
Panther 29
Tiger 29
Sherman VC 13
King Tiger 2

I would suspect this would be a ground base, Panzer 4 might get the most sorties and deaths, while I would say the higher perk tanks get all the kills. However some like the Sherman Firefly just rarely come out of a hanger.

I would say the Panther has the highest Kill/Death, unconfirmed but I would suspect it, while Tiger/King Tiger are respectably up there.

Taking into perspective even more, here's a K/D ratio in each vehicle based on my stats.
King Tiger 56
Panther 31.125
Tiger 15
M18 7
T34/85 6.93
Panzer4F 5.06

Clearly you can see the reason why tanks are perked and for what reason. Of course these stats are based on my playing, so it wouldn't be accurate to judge an entire arena based on it, just gives an idea.

[Krusty]

kill-to-death is somewhat subjective. Lusche uses kills+deaths total. So while the Panther might have a better ratio, the Panzer has way more use (simply in terms of raw numbers used). I think that's the chart Tilt was thinking of.

[Lusche]

Considering you can up, die, up, die, up, die, in a perfectly normal GV fight within 5 minutes and be happy

And that's why the arena K/H for GV's is about twice as high as for fighters or attackers.  

Generally speaking, GV in the LW arena have 20-25% of the total play time and about 40% of all scoring kills. For a detailed analysis (with literally dozens of charts )  you will have to wait until early January

Oh, and as there are much less choices in Gv's than in planes, we can not really compare a particular plane to a particular tank. But I can say: More pilots do hop into a P-51D at least once during a tour than into any other plane or GV. 

[Tilt]

can you measure play time per ride or even measure play time fighters v play time gv's? or any trends over the past years of player time fighters v player time gv's.

I would be interested in that.

............. and of course I can compare them. (love it when folk say you cant this or you cant that) However conclusions drawn from any comparison have to be qualified.

[Lusche]

can you measure play time per ride

no.

or even measure play time fighters v play time gv's?

yes, as you can see by my post above.

or any trends over the past years of player time fighters v player time gv's.

I would be interested in that.

Patience, young grashopper!  

............. and of course I can compare them. (love it when folk say you cant this or you cant that)

Then go ahead! More than 130 tours full of data are waiting for you on the score pages  

[Krusty]

That is the definition of "you can't compare them" tilt

It means comparing them holds no real value because they are qualitatively different

If you wish to, feel free. You just won't have much to conclude after comparing because they are too different.

[Butcher]

ALL hail Lusche the Pie King!

[SmokinLoon]

Well taking from my stats I would say could be used a "generic" idea

Most tanks killed I have in order:
Panzer 4H 610
Panzer 4F 238
T34/85 186
Wirbelwind 160
M4a3(75) 117
M4a3(76) 94
T34/76 63
M18 59
Osti 31
Panther 29
Tiger 29
Sherman VC 13
King Tiger 2

I would suspect this would be a ground base, Panzer 4 might get the most sorties and deaths, while I would say the higher perk tanks get all the kills. However some like the Sherman Firefly just rarely come out of a hanger.

I would say the Panther has the highest Kill/Death, unconfirmed but I would suspect it, while Tiger/King Tiger are respectably up there.

Taking into perspective even more, here's a K/D ratio in each vehicle based on my stats.
King Tiger 56
Panther 31.125
Tiger 15
M18 7
T34/85 6.93
Panzer4F 5.06

Clearly you can see the reason why tanks are perked and for what reason. Of course these stats are based on my playing, so it wouldn't be accurate to judge an entire arena based on it, just gives an idea.

   Are you seriously taking your camper stats as a model of how effective a tank is???    You really are high on yourself.  

[Butcher]

 Are you seriously taking your camper stats as a model of how effective a tank is???    You really are high on yourself.  

Believe whatever you want 

[DrBone1]

 Are you seriously taking your camper stats as a model of how effective a tank is???    You really are high on yourself.  

This guy always has something to say not too smart but he talks alot of smack.      Butcher

[Butcher]

This guy always has something to say not too smart but he talks alot of smack.      Butcher

Nobody is talking smack, fact is he never faced me in a tank and wants to troll a BBS, which is understandable.

[DrBone1]

I should have specified "His failed troll attempts on the BBS" .

[SmokinLoon]

I should have specified "His failed troll attempts on the BBS" .

Look who is talking.