Categorize B26 As "Attack"

[Lusche]

It can carry a 500lb bomb.  I thought it had Attack as an option?

It's fighter only, because it has no ords in AH, only a drop tank option.

Pure fighters are:

Bf 109 E, F, K
Brewster
C.202 & 205
Hurricane I
Me 163B
Me 262
P-47M
Spitfire I, V, IX, XIV
Ta 152H
Yak-9U

The only non ords carrying fighters that do have an additional attack scoring mode are the A6M3, Yak-9T and the Hurricane IID. The A6M seems to have slipped through the net...

[STEELE]

Just as I suspected, there's no rhyme or reason to the way attack planes are classified, just whatever blows the hair back    
  I wasted 15 min one day looking thru the bomber, attack, and fighter list to find the il-2, to no avail!  
Then I was told you have to have "all" selected to find it    double

[Tank-Ace]

You're hammered out of your mind right now, aren't you STEELE ?

[STEELE]

You're hammered out of your mind right now, aren't you STEELE ?

No, you are the hammered one  (You still think you're in a Tiger II  )
What clipboard list is the Il-2 under now?  They may have moved it, I forgot to check last time I was on; but, it is/was only on the "All" list for a good while!!!11oneoneone

[Tank-Ace]

Its under the 'attack' category, which fits it best IMO. Not a fighter/attacker, too heavy and unmanuverable (displays no fighter-like characteristics) for that, but not a bomber/attacker either, since it only carries about 800lbs of bombs, and doesn't have special provisions to either level-bomb or dive-bomb.

[skorpion]

Its under the 'attack' category, which fits it best IMO. Not a fighter/attacker, too heavy and unmanuverable for that, but not a bomber/attacker either, since it only carries about 800lbs of bombs.

so its classification depends on how well it manuvers and how much it weighs? or how much ordinance it can carry? right. gotchya chief.

[mthrockmor]

Bombers aren't killed by ack? I rarely fly buffs. Got bored and burned almost all my perks on a B-29. Cruised to 27K, headed to the strat and ack started the pig burning at over 300 knts. Go figure?! Ack kills me.

Not really bummed but do note I may be only one killed by auto ack at 27k in-game. Do I get a medal? Maybe a sign. Or maybe I stick to fighters.

Boo

[Tank-Ace]

so its classification depends on how well it manuvers and how much it weighs? or how much ordinance it can carry? right. gotchya chief.

Yeah, because classification should depend on which company builit it, or what color it was painted. But preformance and usage? Nah! silly me, what was I thinking  ?

[skorpion]

Yeah, because classification should depend on which company builit it, or what color it was painted. But preformance and usage? Nah! silly me, what was I thinking  ?

You do realize that the companies that built it were told it had to be a bomber/fighter/attacker ect... right?

thats how they were classified. the US government told boeing that they had to build a bomber (B-17) right? not a fighter and classify it as such.

[Tank-Ace]

And you know what? Sometimes the governments get it wrong. Il-2 is almost the epitome of a ground-attack aircraft, and bears more resemblence to a fighter than a bomber.


BTW, what something is classified as and how its used is upto the military. If the USAAF felt like classifying the B-17 as a fighter, boeing wouldn't do a damn thing past asking about it.


Edit: by the way, why do you always try to be clever and catch people screwing up? If you try to act like an arse, you'll usually just end up getting your nose rubbed in it.

[skorpion]

And you know what? Sometimes the governments get it wrong. Il-2 is almost the epitome of a ground-attack aircraft, and bears more resemblence to a fighter than a bomber.


BTW, what something is classified as and how its used is upto the military. If the USAAF felt like classifying the B-17 as a fighter, boeing wouldn't do a damn thing past asking about it.


Edit: by the way, why do you always try to be clever and catch people screwing up? If you try to act like an arse, you'll usually just end up getting your nose rubbed in it.

So your saying the Russian government got it wrong when the Il plane series making companies made their specific bomber/attacker? right. As far as your military classification process, thats partially right. the US government/military both decide on it. Not to mention i never said anything about the company classifying the planes.


I only caught your screw up because it stuck out like a fat kid in a vegetable shop. if i didnt correct it, you would have at least 20 different people biting your bellybutton  over it.

[Tank-Ace]

Lol, kid you need to learn some manners. What I said is 100% correct as far as the game goes (which is what this entire thread is about, having the B-26's designation changed IN THE GAME). Its also correct as far as usage is concerned in real life.


No, you didn't say anything about the company classifying it. you said they were told to build a bomber, fighter, or attacker (which isn't entirely correct by the way, usually the military puts out specifications and description for what they want, such as a small, light-weight fighter capable of ground attack, and multiple firms submit competing designs. Whats asked for doesn't always end up being how the final product is used.)


But since you seem to be slow to learn, I'll give you some advice: stop digging that hole you're in. Digging only gets you deeper.

[skorpion]

Lol, kid you need to learn some manners. What I said is 100% correct as far as the game goes (which is what this entire thread is about, having the B-26's designation changed IN THE GAME). Its also correct as far as usage is concerned in real life.


No, you didn't say anything about the company classifying it. you said they were told to build a bomber, fighter, or attacker (which isn't entirely correct by the way, usually the military puts out specifications and description for what they want, such as a small, light-weight fighter capable of ground attack, and multiple firms submit competing designs. Whats asked for doesn't always end up being how the final product is used.)


But since you seem to be slow to learn, I'll give you some advice: stop digging that hole you're in. Digging only gets you deeper.

So what you said about ordinance classifying the planes in game is correct? right. its classified as it was IRL. So no, the B-26 shouldnt be classified as an attacker. it should be classified as a bomber as it was in real life. and what it did in real life was bomb targets like a bomber. every mission that every plane went on was considered either attack or defense. so when the B-17's went to flatten Berlin they should be classified as attack because they went out and attacked them? or that they should be classified as a bomber because of the bomb load?

Normally, the company builds what the military ordered, and the military normally uses it as it was intended. in this case, the IL2 as a ground attack/bomber.

[RTHolmes]

[Tank-Ace]

Man skorpion, you just can't stay away from that shovel. Who knows, if you keep digging, you might actually be able to dig your way out, you'll just end up on the other side of the world.