DITCHES SHOULD COUNT AS KILLS

[Cobra]

Two suggestions....

1.) Shoot better (explosions are pretty)

2.) Get bigger guns (explosions are pretty)

Wait a minute......come to think of it, I'll take those as well   (explosions are pretty)

[Gator]

> Forget about the scorecard for a while and fly, you may have more fun. Above all, stop the personal remarks, please!

  I usually avoid posting (and often reading) to threads like these, but Kieren's advice is too good for me to pass up without comment.  What he says is pretty common in Dawn of Aces, and it is refreshing just how good it is in there.  Best group of folks to fly and fight against I've ever encountered, only a couple of "immature" folks vent out on the common channel, but they receive gentle guidance when they do.  As I said, a refreshing environment, had hoped going for pay would help encourage that over here.

  As for coyote's ditching vent (ignoring the personal attacks, which appear unwarranted and are counterproductive, IMHO), it is easier to ditch than to land on a runway.  I would like to see more consideration given to the location of the ditch.

[Heckel]

Coyote,

You're just getting worked up.  The fact is, if the enemy gets away...he gets away.  He beat you.  If he's on the ground, safe and sound, you didn't get him.  Ask yourself how he got away, learn from the experience, and next time, leave him a cloud of fluttering debris in the breeze.  But don't blame your own inability to cack him on "cowardice."  He won, fair and square.  Strafe while you can, and if you still miss him...HA!  Time to work on gunnery skills, m'lad.

Flying Like A Staggering Bovine,
Heckel
THUNDERBIRDS

[Dingy]

Agreed that ditching is too easy.  I've done it myself when either out of a fite due to engine failure or out of ammo.  Sometimes I make it, sometimes I dont.

In reference to the boisterous method of posting online and harrasing RAM and everyone else who disagrees with your points(or seems to), I have only one word:

DWEEBSAYSWHAT?

-Ding

[Torque]

Dang Coyote you are good but man stop ranting on 100.
I really don't mind hearing flotsam from dweeby pilots, hearing constant moaning from a good one it's unbecoming.

I especially hate it when I have to squelch my own teammate so I can see pertinent messages without all the ranting traffic

[Duckwing6]

Jeeez Coyote you probably should have a closer watch on what your opponent is doing .. then you might realize that he's ditching *in time* to turn back and strafe him to the ground..

and when you're done with wasting ammo and E i hope i'm right above ya to smak you outta the sky with MY Hog  

cheers

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Phillip "Duckwing6" Artweger
Flight Officer "E" Flight
Skeleton Crew

[Fury]

coyote wrote: WE FLY FOR KILLS, NOT FOR FORCING PEOPLE OUT OF THE FIGHT,

While I enjoy killing people (just look up my score and you'll see that's not very often), since I look at AH as a "team sport", it is actually preferrable (IMHO) to wound the enemy and send him running home than to waste the time trying to kill him.  I could wound two and send them running by the time I could chase down and kill one.

I don't always look at it that way -- I do like to kill when I can.  But since I look at it as a "team sport", taking people out of action is sometimes more important as padding my score.

Just my opinion,
Fury

[Mighty1]

Coyote I don't see why you are mad at RAM. Was it not your fault he got away?

If you don't like people ditching then kill them before they can.

Yelling and screaming on open channel does nothing but make YOU look bad.

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Mighty1
The New Baby Harp Seals

"Come try to club THIS Seal"

[delta]

FYI,

Just did a score check on coyote. Impressive number of kills, deaths and etc.

As of 12:56 Mountain USA time, Feb 21, 2K,  Coyote had 49 ditches.  RAM 50.

interesting....

delta

[coyote]

 

Originally posted by Dingy:
Agreed that ditching is too easy.  I've done it myself when either out of a fite due to engine failure or out of ammo.  Sometimes I make it, sometimes I dont.

In reference to the boisterous method of posting online and harrasing RAM and everyone else who disagrees with your points(or seems to), I have only one word:

DWEEBSAYSWHAT?

-Ding

Ding or Dingy? I never once mentioned RAM's name. I was talking about an incident that was totally unrealistic. He brought himself into this. Get your facts straight if you please. Thanks


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Coyote

[coyote]

 

Originally posted by delta:
FYI,

Just did a score check on coyote. Impressive number of kills, deaths and etc.

As of 12:56 Mountain USA time, Feb 21, 2K,  Coyote had 49 ditches.  RAM 50.

interesting....

delta

Thanks perry mason, Most of my "ditches" are in fact landings at airfields which were scored as ditches for some reason. Just can't respond to the context of my original post can ya? Sheeez. Oh yea, will all the fields I capture(by myself LOL) some of those ditches are also C47 belly landings next to the map room. Nice try....



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Coyote

[coyote]

 

Originally posted by Mighty1:
Coyote I don't see why you are mad at RAM. Was it not your fault he got away?

If you don't like people ditching then kill them before they can.

Yelling and screaming on open channel does nothing but make YOU look bad.

No, It is not my fault he "got away" . He was shot down but the ditching code is so weak he "got away" as you say. Point in case: last night I was capping F2, a 190 dove in on a F4U and shot away large portions of his tail. The F4U flip flopped to the ground , sat on the ground for aprox 30 seconds , then vanished. No kill message. yea........ I guess that 190 drive "let him get away"


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Coyote

[dotsie]

Landing gear up on a runway does not count as a ditch btw. I know cos i prefer to land gear up most of the time ( quicker   ). I always get the sucessful landing message, except when i go off the runway, even just a tad will cause a ditch. Maybe this is why u get this coyote.

Dotsie.

[funked]

I'm pretty sure a ditch was credited as a kill in real life as long as you damaged him, i.e. you had something in your gun camera.

[Vermillion]

Another reason these guys are ditching so much is they go fuel light, then when they are outta fuel, they just ditch instead of returning to base.

Guess what people, Ditches don't count as death.    

Go check your own scores, and check your Kills/Death to see what I mean

K/D = Kills/(Deaths+Bails+1)

Thats why some of these guys with higher K/D ratio's have so many Ditches.

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Vermillion
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