Ready for P-47 Upgrade!

[GNucks]

That's a birdcage.

[Seadog36]

If another P-47 is needed it would be an earlier P-47 to extend its covered time.  Something like a P-47C or P-47D-5.

The P-47 was the most numerously built U.S. fighter, half of which were the razorback variants of which the majority were built with or retrofitted with underwing hardpoints for fuel or ordinance. As such there is much merit and would add to FSOs historical events and AvA where D-25s are often erroneously subbed and would restore the P-47 to its roll as a pioneering ground attack role in MW.

There is negligible difference between the D-11 and earlier Ds and Cs and even the Cs and limited number of Bs did not see service soon enough to qualify them for Early War the way the dates in the game are arranged, though having a model in EW would be very attractive.

The introduction of the nearly identical D-25 and D-40 has caused the gap in representation in the earlier models, and the M an over representation of the least relevant segment which was well covered by the N.

[coombz]

-1

we already have plenty of p47s

[Seadog36]

That's a birdcage.

P-51Bs had the more attractive birdcage originally but AH replaced them all with the relatively less common Malcom hood bubble field modification because of complaints about visibility~ kills it. They had them on a small number of Razorback 47s but mercifully they haven't changed those! The field modification to the D-11, of adding underwing hardpoints and larger 13' prop should not be difficult or objectionable either.

[Krusty]

I always rather liked the birdcage on the P-51B before. Sort of sad to see it given a super generous field of view like it was.


The birdcage.... it had style!

Oh well. Maybe some day they'll give us an option in the hangar.

[Guppy35]

I always rather liked the birdcage on the P-51B before. Sort of sad to see it given a super generous field of view like it was.


The birdcage.... it had style!

Oh well. Maybe some day they'll give us an option in the hangar.

But it was flown a lot less because of the visibility complaints.  The Malcom made it a much more usable bird.  It would be nice if we had  both since the birdcage was on the B/C and the Malcom was on the B/C.  It would allow for the correct look on the Pacific B/C models as they didn't get Malcoms out there, nor did the MTO birds.   And obviously the early ETO birds didn't get it initially until March of 44.

[Karnak]

The P-47 was the most numerously built U.S. fighter, half of which were the razorback variants of which the majority were built with or retrofitted with underwing hardpoints for fuel or ordinance. As such there is much merit and would add to FSOs historical events and AvA where D-25s are often erroneously subbed and would restore the P-47 to its roll as a pioneering ground attack role in MW.

There is negligible difference between the D-11 and earlier Ds and Cs and even the Cs and limited number of Bs did not see service soon enough to qualify them for Early War the way the dates in the game are arranged, though having a model in EW would be very attractive.

The introduction of the nearly identical D-25 and D-40 has caused the gap in representation in the earlier models, and the M an over representation of the least relevant segment which was well covered by the N.

As I pointed out, the density of P-47 representation already far exceeds the other extensive lines in AH.  If any line of fighters has a claim of a need for more examples it is the Yak1/3/7/9 series.  We need a Bf109G-6/AS or Bf109G-14/AS far more than an additional P-47 for real performance reasons, not just cosmetics.  A 1941 or early 1942 Fw190 would be a great addition as well.  The most common Seafire, the Mk III, is also needed.

A LaGG-3, La-5, N1K1-J, Spitfire Mk XII, Ki-61-Ia, Ki-61-Ib, Mosquito F.Mk II, Mosquito Mk IV, Mosquito Mk 30 and P-38H would also all be better gap filling additions than the P-47D-15 or D-22.

[Krusty]

But it was flown a lot less because of the visibility complaints.

I'm not so sure that's the case. It was flown less because it didn't have 2x1000lbs, 10rkts, and 6x50cal. 

Whenever I did fly the B it was because it was lesser armed. I also liked the birdcage, I won't lie.

You'd think HTC could do some sort of hangar option like the B-25C nose, only one has frames and the other is a bubble? Of course the P-51s were done before that system was implemented on the B-25s, so maybe they couldn't at the time but now they can?

[Seadog36]

I'm not so sure that's the case. It was flown less because it didn't have 2x1000lbs, 10rkts, and 6x50cal. 

Whenever I did fly the B it was because it was lesser armed. I also liked the birdcage, I won't lie.

You'd think HTC could do some sort of hangar option like the B-25C nose, only one has frames and the other is a bubble? Of course the P-51s were done before that system was implemented on the B-25s, so maybe they couldn't at the time but now they can?

I like this line of thinking Krusty, D-25 with a hanger razorback option or a 51b with a birdcage would be great~ +1

[Karnak]

I like this line of thinking Krusty, D-25 with a hanger razorback option or a 51b with a birdcage would be great~ +1

I don't think a D-25 with razorback would work as it would have a different flight model due to the greater directional stability from the razorback.  Pyro said that the loadout system couldn't do things like that.

[Krusty]

^-- What he said. That's totally different with regards to flight modeling.

[321BAR]

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Ta-daaa...

Would be nice if we could get birdcage 51's though.

you mean get the birdcage back? +1

[JUGgler]

The only thing the P47 line needs is a hot tub, there's plenty of room for it, what's the hold up?



JUGgler

[4Prop]

+10000000000

I live jugs, 'specially the big ones.

Plus I think we need another MW jug

[Karnak]

Plus I think we need another MW jug

The requested P-47 would not be Mid-War, it would be Late-War.