Spawn Camping

[BaldEagl]

I was wondering yesterday why so many complain about spawn camping. 

I was wondering this after reading Lusche's lament about tank town and while in-game at a major spawn battle, and that's just what it was, going both ways back and forth.

First in regards to Lushe's lament it seems there's one of these spawn battles on most maps, usually in the same places, so the players have evidently found a way to substiture this for tank town and it makes sense because it's much faster to get into the action.

Second, in relation to everyone else it seems both sides enjoy it otherwise these battles wouldn't form over and over in the same locations on the same maps everytime the map is up.  Besides that neither side seems to try to shut down the other sides VH's further contributing to my thoughts that the GVers would prefer to be able to join that fight.

The Jabo's don't fly to take down hangers, only to kill GV's.  The GVers don't really complain about the Jabo's because it's quick enough to get back into it.  The fighters only come to kill the Jabos.  Even the bombers don't go for the fields, only the GV's.

All in all it seems to me to be a healthy, fun and addictive passtime for all and it seems to me the only reason to complain would be if you don't like GVing or flying fighters, attack or bombers.

[DMVIAGRA]

Simple solution get a Hellcat and speed shoot, you can avoid a Stuka bomb with it's speed. 

[Lusche]

I was wondering yesterday why so many complain about spawn camping.  

I was wondering this after reading Lusche's lament about tank town and while in-game at a major spawn battle, and that's just what it was, going both ways back and forth.

First in regards to Lushe's lament it seems there's one of these spawn battles on most maps, usually in the same places, so the players have evidently found a way to substiture this for tank town and it makes sense because it's much faster to get into the action.

Second, in relation to everyone else it seems both sides enjoy it otherwise these battles wouldn't form over and over in the same locations on the same maps everytime the map is up.  Besides that neither side seems to try to shut down the other sides VH's further contributing to my thoughts that the GVers would prefer to be able to join that fight.

The Jabo's don't fly to take down hangers, only to kill GV's.  The GVers don't really complain about the Jabo's because it's quick enough to get back into it.  The fighters only come to kill the Jabos.  Even the bombers don't go for the fields, only the GV's.

All in all it seems to me to be a healthy, fun and addictive passtime for all and it seems to me the only reason to complain would be if you don't like GVing or flying fighters, attack or bombers.

I) My... lament about tank town?  
II VH's at the bases had been frequently down today, and all the most used bases for this had been repeatedly captured by all sides.
III) Oh yes, GV'ers do complain about jabos, though I find it highly ironic at times ...

[Melvin]

The GVers don't really complain about the Jabo's because it's quick enough to get back into it. 

What world are you occupying at the moment?

[SmokinLoon]

GV spawn camping is one of the travesties within Aces High.  Right along with tanks shooting down aircraft with their main gun, heavy bombers carpet bombing gv's w/ 1k bombs, dog-fighting 163's, and a few other things.   

Camping gv spawn points achieve 2 things: it allows easy kills and quick action, per say.  Obviously right on par with those who like arcade games.

Having a tank engagement in a "tank town" offers a place where men can gather and duke it out from longer starting ranges using cover, speed, and long distance shooting skills.  The engagement is far more representative of the real deal than spawn camping, no doubt there.  The playing field is ultimately even.

See the difference? 

The Trinity map offers the absolute best tank town available in Aces High, yet spawn points at 135 seem to capture the attention of the circle jerkers.   

 

[skorpion]

the only really good non spawn camped TT in the game is the one on the map ndisles.

the thing is freaking huge and most people dont bother to take it. sure your gonna get egg raped a few times but i have never had a problem with spawn camping.

[BaldEagl]

I) My... lament about tank town?  

Or is it, because after ~2 years of "new" strats nobody even bothers to think about that option anymore, no matter what the situation really is? (This would worry me the most, as it reminds me of tanktown's fate  )

[Karnak]

GV spawn camping is one of the travesties within Aces High.  Right along with tanks shooting down aircraft with their main gun, heavy bombers carpet bombing gv's w/ 1k bombs, dog-fighting 163's, and a few other things.   

At least in the case of the heavy bombers 1) they actually did at least once carpet bomb a German tank division and 2) they have relatively little effect on the GVs in AH.

[Lusche]

That's some creative interpretation there... though not as much as the one in my "another idea" thread about scoring.

[zack1234]

I don't use GV,s maybe a wirble when I am having a cup of tea

if your GV spawn is camped tell me I will up a Typhoon with ords

[EskimoJoe]

That's some creative interpretation there...

QFT 

[Chilli]

As I remember it, there used to be a tank town that existed in a basin that prevented most aircraft from interfering with the GV action.

Anyone else remember that map?  Also, there was a map we called Donut, that had the equivalent of furball lake.  It was my favorite all time AH map.  I had so much fun with my newly acquired skills in a Wildcat.  All the hot shot planes would come in guns blazing for an easy kill on the relic.....   She would absorb endless amounts of ammo and catch my attackers on an overshoot, surprise a turnfighter by whipping them at their own game, and countless memories of folks just augering trying to get low and slow over the lake with my F4F.

[Hoffman]

At least in the case of the heavy bombers 1) they actually did at least once carpet bomb a German tank division and 2) they have relatively little effect on the GVs in AH.

I seem to recall in Panzer Commander, by Colonel Hanz Von Luck; in his detailing of Operation Goodwood, a rather large number of bombers knocking virtually the entire 21st Panzer out of action, save for a single Stug battalion, 1 Infantry Battalion, and a single 8.8cm flak battery which wasn't part of the division but was an independant luftwaffe unit out in the middle of nowhere.  The Stugs, and flak battery were able to hold off... my memory is fuzzy I'll have to find the book, but I think it was two armored divisions, Canadian and British, who after watching the devastation and the first bit of advance finding nothing went in sloppy with no infantry support and lost around 50 tanks or so before being forced to retreat.

I recall him stating that the Tiger Battalion was really smashed, several of the tanks had been flipped upside down from the bombs hitting near them, one or two guys even committed suicide.
The only reason the 21st was able to hold is they had a 20 Km defense instead of the German standard of 15... if I recall correctly, the Stugs were far enough back that they weren't touched.




As far as the ingame spawn camping goes... I enjoy it, it lets me practice my gunnery, or my bombing, or my flak gunnery without having to drive around finding someone to shoot for twenty minutes.  It's also a nice way to farm perks in my little Pz IV F.  And when they take down the hangars, I get more perks bringing them back up with supplies.  Win/Win.

[Lusche]

As I remember it, there used to be a tank town that existed in a basin that prevented most aircraft from interfering with the GV action.

Anyone else remember that map? 

Yes, I do.

Trinity.

It had been up for the last few days

[JUGgler]

I wonder how many folks who complain about "spawn camping" actively vulch?


I wonder how many folks who spawn camp complain about being bombed?


I wonder how many vulchers complain about being "spawn camped"?


I wonder!


 


JUGgler