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new military tires
« on: December 22, 2011, 09:23:28 PM »
I was told about those tires five years ago. The People that are working on them and wanted to put out in the market. Really cool.

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Re: new military tires
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2011, 09:45:19 PM »
I've seen these before, back when it was just a theory, totally cool and could be extremely useful
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Re: new military tires
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2011, 09:50:29 PM »
What happens when sand, mud, rocks, etc., gets wedged in between those things?  I can see them being a mean mothertrucker to clean.

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Re: new military tires
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2011, 10:14:57 PM »
I've seen these before, back when it was just a theory, totally cool and could be extremely useful

Either firestone or Michelan is working on these. They cannot go flat at all. You can fully puncture a 1" re-bar and still a good tire. The downside of these is if bellybutton cars and trucks have these, the tire industery will suffer.
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Re: new military tires
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2011, 12:07:36 AM »
Either firestone or Michelan is working on these. They cannot go flat at all. You can fully puncture a 1" re-bar and still a good tire. The downside of these is if bellybutton cars and trucks have these, the tire industery will suffer.

Naa those will never make the street. Slow travel would be ok. Anything stuck in a hole and it is out of balance for speed.

Also check out how the Humvee rocks when it stops. Spring action of the tire.
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Re: new military tires
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2011, 12:15:25 AM »
There was a lot of compression there with one of the light hmmwv's what happens when they are put on an M1151? Great application instead of the run flats we have now but will they hold the weight of the up armors?
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Re: new military tires
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2011, 12:19:36 AM »
There was a lot of compression there with one of the light hmmwv's what happens when they are put on an M1151? Great application instead of the run flats we have now but will they hold the weight of the up armors?

they probably have different tires for different vehicles and their weight.

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Re: new military tires
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2011, 12:24:04 AM »
they probably have different tires for different vehicles and their weight.
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Re: new military tires
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2011, 12:32:17 AM »
Naa those will never make the street. Slow travel would be ok. Anything stuck in a hole and it is out of balance for speed.

Also check out how the Humvee rocks when it stops. Spring action of the tire.

All of this.

Useless for the military because any flotsam will either throw it out of balance or ruin it, unlike the multi-belted, heavy sidewalled tires they should run.

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Re: new military tires
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2011, 04:39:31 AM »
Not to mention the noise they'd make at highway speeds.  Cool tires nonetheless.

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Re: new military tires
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2011, 05:30:38 AM »
I thought this was a post about the fitness of your troops....
But, yes... Michelin have been working on this concept for 10 years It's called a Tweel.
They have versions optimised for road use, as yet there are still the open sides, though I understand the final designs of the tweel are to have a sidewall of some sort.
Said to be much more efficient and much much lighter than a traditional Wheel/Tyre combination. Gonna suck for the flashy rims crowd eventually if it catches on.
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Re: new military tires
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2011, 07:35:00 AM »
Since the spaces in the wheel collapse a bit in volume every rotation, try to imagine if they put sidewalls on these...  and then someone modified the sidewalls with whistles :)  If they spaced the whistles around the perimeter, it would be one continuous shriek as the wheel rotated.  If they varied the spacing or pitch of the whistles, it would either flutter or make a warbling sound.

That would totally replace spinners.
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Re: new military tires
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2011, 09:18:55 AM »
Since the spaces in the wheel collapse a bit in volume every rotation, try to imagine if they put sidewalls on these...  and then someone modified the sidewalls with whistles :)  If they spaced the whistles around the perimeter, it would be one continuous shriek as the wheel rotated.  If they varied the spacing or pitch of the whistles, it would either flutter or make a warbling sound.

That would totally replace spinners.


As if the fart tubes on the little 4 bangers aren't irritating enough, that would be a terrible fad.
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Re: new military tires
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2011, 09:24:36 AM »
Any sidewall would have to be from the ID to the OD. It would not contact and close in each seperate area. If it did the the seperate areas could not compress. Sidewalls would also add weight. They could not be much thinner than what we have now. The thickness would have to be based on possible outside damage sources and not inside pressure or weight capacity.

Not even going to the different speed ratings we have now or the tooling to mount the new system.
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Re: new military tires
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2011, 10:29:58 AM »
Naa those will never make the street. Slow travel would be ok. Anything stuck in a hole and it is out of balance for speed.

Also check out how the Humvee rocks when it stops. Spring action of the tire.

Unlike a car the Hummvee has the brakes on the drive shaft not the tires, so what you are seeing is the excess momentum as it is being stopped.

Also like lots have said anything getting in the sidewall would throw it out of balance.
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