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Offline JUGgler

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« on: December 30, 2011, 01:43:23 PM »
So lets just say about last night-----------> W O W  !

Last night was the epic example of "horde extreme" also the epic example of "defenders minimum". I watched I think 5-7 bases switch hands no matter what we flew, where we flew from, how mutch alt we had or however few there were to defend. There were a few of us "string pullers" on (muppets) yet no matter how many we killed, no matter how many goons were killed no matter how valiant our efforts, we FAILED! This is not a whine thread I actually  :salute these hordes as they give me something to do, yet I feel the tide has turned and "minimul defence" effort will do nothing but continue to get me vulched, gangraped etc.. The base takers have become extreme in #s and extreme in their ruthless ability.


Now how about some "game changer" that motivates more folks to defend?

How about figuring out a way "as the basetakers have" to cultivate the "common human weakness" of needing to belong to something and following the masses. How about finding a way to create some "defensive masses"!


 :aok



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Offline The Fugitive

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Re: Horde
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2011, 01:47:14 PM »
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Offline grizz441

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Re: Horde
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2011, 01:54:10 PM »
Here's the fundamental issue with defense.  Inevitably you are forced to take off from an adjacent base when they destroy your hangars.  Most of the time it seems, the sheeple have your base captured by the time you can even get there from the adjacent base.  After they capture your base, they land and go fly elsewhere leaving you with nothing but an enemy base with full ack up and no enemies.  So basically, before you end up deciding whether or not to take off from the adjacent base you are forced to ask yourself, "Is it even worth it? How close are they to capturing this thing and leaving the area"?  That is a problem.

The solution is for the auto ack to not automatically pop up once a base is captured.  They should be regenerated based on the same timer they were on before they were captured, but allow the other side to resupply the base with goons.  
« Last Edit: December 30, 2011, 02:02:56 PM by grizz441 »
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Offline EagleDNY

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Re: Horde
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2011, 01:59:48 PM »
Quote from: grizz441 on December 30, 2011, 01:54:10 PM
Here's the fundamental issue with defense.  Inevitably you are forced to take off from an adjacent base when they destroy your hangers.  Most of the time it seems, the sheeple have your base captured by the time you can even get there from the adjacent base.  After they capture your base, they land and go fly elsewhere leaving you with nothing but an enemy base with full ack up and no enemies.  So basically, before you end up deciding whether or not to take off from the adjacent base you are forced to ask yourself, "Is it even worth it? How close are they to capturing this thing and leaving the area"?  That is a problem.

The solution is for the auto ack to not automatically pop up once a base is captured.  They should be regenerated based on the same timer they were on before they were captured, but allow the other side to resupply the base with goons. 

I could agree with this - having the ack pop back up all at once pretty much kills the defense as soon as the capture occurs.  If you had GVs defending the base, suddenly they are all getting wacked by the ack instead of being able to keep the base closed while defenders try to bring troops back and recapture town.

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Offline Debrody

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Re: Horde
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 02:13:14 PM »
Hey Jug, remember this picture?
All you need is a


You can kill a smaller scale horde with this alone. If you get a wingman, you two became the horde  ;)
Isnt it enough of a motivation? Honestly i cant wait to pass my exams and face with those "extreme numbers".

People wont up only to get slaughtered by the one pass haul arse awsomeness, we all know. Noone wanna be the sheep, whatever you do; i cant even think about a way to want them to be. Whatever you up, you cant catch a 10k timid pony unless he wants to be caught, therefor there is no way to create "defensive masses". Thats my opinion.

"Be a wolf, fly Luftwaffe"  :aok

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Quote from: skribetm on December 30, 2011, 02:17:06 PM
ENY IS A JOKE ..
...buncha pics...
instant 10 kills in 30 seconds, NOM NOM NOM...   unless there is a 30k enemy jet hovering above the horde...  couse i seen that too!!! lmfao retardzz
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Offline skribetm

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MEGA Horde
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 02:17:06 PM »
ENY IS A JOKE ..













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Offline JOACH1M

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Re: MEGA Horde
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2011, 02:19:30 PM »
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Re: Horde
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 02:20:24 PM »
Aren't those the saddest bunch of pictures you've ever seen?

I could live with this if it was once a night, but it is becoming the norm. Twice an hour in many cases.
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Offline skribetm

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Re: MEGA Horde
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 02:21:03 PM »
Quote from: JOACH1M on December 30, 2011, 02:19:30 PM
Where the friendly 262's?

i was flying one fighting the horde, until it became too thick to even fly through it.
lost a wing getting rammed by a plane who knew where from.
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Offline skribetm

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Re: Horde
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2011, 02:22:02 PM »
btw, my 110G made it up the airfield only to be HO'd by 20+ LA7's.  :cry :cry :cry
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Re: MEGA Horde
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2011, 02:25:28 PM »
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You want the bishies to have ENY penalties for having 5 more players?   :headscratch:

ENY is a joke, but it doesn't apply to that event.  The nits had the numbers, according to your pic.
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Re: MEGA Horde
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2011, 02:26:26 PM »
Quote from: skribetm on December 30, 2011, 02:21:03 PM
i was flying one fighting the horde, until it became too thick to even fly through it.
lost a wing getting rammed by a plane who knew where from.
I don't think i was lucky enough a horde like that in a 262...
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Re: Horde
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2011, 02:27:10 PM »
I'll have to post the video of the mass F4F raid here the other day I had the privilage of being the sole defender at.  Managed to get my 38 barely above the horde, and noticed in a group of probably 30+ F4F's, there was 1 P51 and 1 Spitfire XVI...  So I shot those two down and managed to get out of there relatively OK.  The F4F's had enough people with their 100LB bombs to drop ALL hangars as well as White Flag town, so 30 is probably being very conservative.

It was actually extremely fun to be the only Green dot in a sea of Red, especially in a 38.
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Re: Horde
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2011, 02:28:37 PM »
Quote from: wil3ur on December 30, 2011, 02:27:10 PM
I'll have to post the video of the mass F4F raid here the other day I had the privilage of being the sole defender at.  Managed to get my 38 barely above the horde, and noticed in a group of probably 30+ F4F's, there was 1 P51 and 1 Spitfire XVI...  So I shot those two down and managed to get out of there relatively OK.  The F4F's had enough people with their 100LB bombs to drop ALL hangars as well as White Flag town, so 30 is probably being very conservative.

It was actually extremely fun to be the only Green dot in a sea of Red, especially in a 38.

Heh, at least they were in F4F's, that's kind of cool actually.
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Re: MEGA Horde
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2011, 02:31:23 PM »
Quote from: caldera on December 30, 2011, 02:25:28 PM
You want the bishies to have ENY penalties for having 5 more players?   :headscratch:

ENY is a joke, but it doesn't apply to that event.  The nits had the numbers, according to your pic.

ENY IS A JOKE WHEN IT DOES NOT ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH WHAT IT IS DESIGNED TO DO.

"Automatic Side Balancing" ought to level the playing field and encourage even-sided fights.
It's not actually "five more knits" than rooks when you count that both knitwitss and bishes were hording both fronts of the wookies.

but, whatever ...


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