Bring back the Zone Strat.... please!

[Chalenge]

I dont see adding zones or more strats as forcing you to do anything. On every side of the map there will always be people willing to fly high alt and engage. You also dont need to fly high to bomb strats. So your argument fails on all sides from what Im reading.

[Chalenge]

Well... here's my slant on that. I find I've consistently been terrible in a fighter at high alt duking it out with someone else- just something about it, I suck . I don't especially enjoy playing that aspect myself (sorry bud ).

I do enjoy flying the bombers in that roughly historical manner however, basically furnishing the means to create that high altitude fight.

Just goes to show you there is a lot more to ACM then a level turn with the stick pulled back into your gut! 

[james]

+1 on the zone strats.

[guncrasher]

I dont see adding zones or more strats as forcing you to do anything. On every side of the map there will always be people willing to fly high alt and engage. You also dont need to fly high to bomb strats. So your argument fails on all sides from what Im reading.

now you are contradicting yourself.  by not defending some strats that you guys want to pork then it will affect other bases including airplanes.  so you basically want to force me to fly high to defend against your buffs when i am having fun along with 90% of the other players below 10k.  you can pork an individual field and reduce ords/fuel/fh/bh/vh supplies etc.  but that's just too hard for some people.  they want to be able to just hit one area and affect all bases for one country.  that's the easy mode of doing things. 

As escort the one and defender the other... so both. Right now its almost impossible to get people away from the furball. People that claim the high altitude fight isnt fun are dead wrong! Those are the very people that will never be able to fight at high altitude because they never do it and probably dont kill many bombers either way. Properly positioned an escort can get kill after kill and as a defender against bomber streams its the most historical method of battle in AH. In that regard AH is actually quite backward as I believe there were many more bomber streams attacked than there ever were of furballs.

+10

Some great ideas. Right now if you drop the strat below a certain percentage all the radar goes out. Have zone strats and if you blast it below a certain percent all the radar goes out in that zone, no drop tanks, fuel at 75%, bomb loads cut in half, perk planes double...cause some havoc in that zone requiring active defense of the zone strat.

I think this is a great idea!

Boo

semp

[Colt44]

Great ideas all around.  I  love the idea of zone complexes closer to the front line that control local base supply...these can have minor game impact and annoyance and be able to be resupplied.  I also like the idea of a Capital complex near the HQ that controls the zones, greatly effects game play when damaged, and can't be resupplied.  But that is my perfect world...and may not be eveyones.  

I understand that this concept may not be liked by (few /some/many/most) of the membership and may be a"no go" if guys are gonna log or even quit the game because they cant get their ride or the impact takes the fun outta their flight time.  This is first a business for HTC and should be relaxation and escapism for the rest of us.... I get that.  I do.  

But looking at the overall content of this thread....Having more strat options seems to appeal to everyone on some level.  Its the "effective result" of damaging the strat that is the point of contention.  Gentlemen, and ladies (yes, we know your out their) please keep submitting any viable ideas on the zone strat or the addition of strat in general...  This is good stuff, and we may yet hit on the perfect option.

Havent heard from HTC or the big boss and still would like their take on the issue ....If im P'in on the forbidden tree or something...let me know, not looking to make your job harder, just trying to get a pulse on this issue.  

[Colt44]

...so you basically want to force me to fly high to defend against your buffs when i am having fun along with 90% of the other players below 10k.

As for high vs. low Altitude Fights... If a zone strat complex is two or three sectors back...some guys will take off 6 sectors back in buffs or four sectors back in jabos.  And some guys will hunt these high flyers.... I will.   Occasionally... we now get the massive raid to the Capital...mostly not....and thats not going to change no matter what the reward.... because flying 7 sectors behind enemy lines takes a long time and not everyone wants to do it. 

With zones bases it will be the same.  Most buffs will take off closer because they dont want to fly for and hour to get to 20,000 feet and jabos have to bleed alt and E to 12k to even start an effective bomb run....also the puffy ack at the zones was always a bear.  So, my point is.... there will always be fights under 10 k.  Thats a Aces High constant.

Can I get an "amen"?

Just trying to add a little depth to the game play, not change it brother. 

[FBCrabby]

If you really really want to stop the High-alt bombers... "why you would dunno" - Add 20-30mph cross winds with up/down drafts at 30K... That'll really screw them up...

[Chalenge]

now you are contradicting yourself.  by not defending some strats that you guys want to pork then it will affect other bases including airplanes.  so you basically want to force me to fly high to defend against your buffs when i am having fun along with 90% of the other players below 10k.  you can pork an individual field and reduce ords/fuel/fh/bh/vh supplies etc.  but that's just too hard for some people.  they want to be able to just hit one area and affect all bases for one country.  that's the easy mode of doing things. 

No. There is no contradiction. I merely told you what I enjoy. I dont want you to do anything except keep on furballing and having fun.  What we all want is more diversity in game play. What you want is furball only. Im sorry you read disparaging words in the wish here but its just not there.

Now if you consider that out of all people logged in for any one country only about 20% ever up to defend strats then every country will suffer a similar problem and it all works out in the end. No one is raining on your parade or pooping in your backyard.

We heard the same whine about the B-29 and yet there hasnt been an end to AH as we know it. In fact its more furball than ever (with a side of mudhen thrown in).

[Chalenge]

If you really really want to stop the High-alt bombers... "why you would dunno" - Add 20-30mph cross winds with up/down drafts at 30K... That'll really screw them up...

Wind? I prefer to just takeoff and shoot them down.

[mthrockmor]

Another idea for zone strats. Other threads have spoken of having convoys. They could have convoys that would go from a port near the HQ, travel to these zone strats. If you sink that convoy or reduce it the zone strat is impacted, which impacts fuel, bomb loads and rearm time for the bases in that zone. The convoy would have 6-8 merchantmen and 4-6 destroyers.

You could make the defenses at airfields correspondingly tougher. Right now 6+ 110s can eat a town alive. Make the auto ack (not puffy) twice what it is now. This would create an incentive to find these convoys and sink them to make it easier to take bases. And a greater incentive to defend these convoys, changing the dynamics of organized fights, in theory.

Thoughts???

Boo

[Colt44]

Other threads have spoken of having convoys. They could have convoys that would go from a port near the HQ, travel to these zone strats. If you sink that convoy or reduce it the zone strat is impacted, which impacts fuel, bomb loads and rearm time for the bases in that zone.

Good stuff!   I'd like to see more trains and railyards as well... attacking IA trains was always good fun...but ...what if....Manned 88's on trains and at the Zone strat?? 

Again, the amount of damage impact would be something HTC would have to evaluate...  Regardless....more targets = more fun.