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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2012, 03:29:34 PM »
Unless things have changed since I've been on, the B-26, mossie, and P-51B aren't all that common. I'm not saying they're rare, but they are (or were, at any rate) unusual enough to draw a passing comment such as "oh, look, a B-26. Theres something you don't see every day".


And I'm not sure we should count troop carriers such as the M3, LVTA2, and C-47, since those are 3 out of 5 of our choices and use of one of them is almost mandatory during CV ops, with the other two being either significantly slower, or carrying less than 1/3rd the number of troops.

I guarantee you if there were more powerfull troop carriers, they wouldn't be used.
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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2012, 03:31:57 PM »
B-26s and Mossies (not counting mine) are something I see almost every time I play.  P-51Bs not as much, but I probably miss some that I just assume are Ds due to the overwhelming number of Ds.

Also just a matter of how often you see "x landing y in a z" message.  Once again, B-26s and Mossies are fairly common in the chat buffer.
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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2012, 03:32:04 PM »
I see B-26's Mossies and P-51B's daily bro. Your fighting a loosing battle.

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« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2012, 03:37:26 PM »
I see B-26's Mossies and P-51B's daily bro. Your fighting a loosing battle.

What about Ki-84s, P-38Js, Me-110s, Spit8s/9s, hurri-C's, Seafires? quite common :)
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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2012, 04:04:44 PM »
What about Ki-84s, P-38Js, Me-110s, Spit8s/9s, hurri-C's, Seafires? quite common :)
Ki-84 is a late war aircraft.  I forgot about the Hurri IIc, that should be on my Early War list too.
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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2012, 04:05:33 PM »
Off the top of my head:

Mid-war units that are fairly common in the LWA: A-20G, A6M5b, B-17G, B-24J?, B-25H, B-26B, Bf110G-2, C.205, F6F-5, Il-2, Mosquito Mk VI, P-38J, P-51B, Panzer IV H?, Spitfire Mk VIII and Tiger I.

Early-war units that are fairly common in the LWA: C-47A, Fw190A-5, Lancaster Mk III, LVT-2, M-3, Seafire Mk II and Spitfire Mk IX.

I would venture so far as to say that the B-17 is a LW plane, yes? If it were an F variant, that would be more MW.

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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2012, 04:11:32 PM »
What about Ki-84s, P-38Js, Me-110s, Spit8s/9s, hurri-C's, Seafires? quite common :)
I fly a P-38J every day, my main ride, spit8/9's are most common other than the 16 and the 110 is the primary ord buster for most people that i know.

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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2012, 04:40:58 PM »
I would venture so far as to say that the B-17 is a LW plane, yes? If it were an F variant, that would be more MW.
No, the B-17G is available in the Mid-War Arena.  B-17Gs also entered service in 1943, making it Mid-War.
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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2012, 05:34:02 PM »
Yak-3 and Yak-9T and U updated. Happened for the P-40, only a matter of time.  :)

I posted on the Yak-3 quite a long time ago and I ask this...WHERE ARE YOU!!!
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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2012, 08:39:42 PM »
Russian gap fillers:

LaGG-3
MiG-3
Pe-2
SB-2
Tu-2
Yak-1
Yak-7

Was just gonna post on the need for another Russian Attack/Bomber Aircraft and I think the PE-2 would do nicely!
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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2012, 08:59:14 PM »
No, the B-17G is available in the Mid-War Arena.  B-17Gs also entered service in 1943, making it Mid-War.

Oh. But the F would make a much more suitable variant, don't you think????? WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE!!!!!!!

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« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2012, 09:36:35 PM »
I personally would love to have more Soviet planes from the era.  The main argument against the Yak-3 seems to be that other planes (specifically the Yak-9) can do what it does.  However, that argument can be applied to almost any other plane.  How many 109 variants do we have?  How many more are there? I can't even keep track.  The Ju88 also fulfills the medium bomber role doesn't it?  Having another German bomber from the era would be really important, but if there was going to be another bomber added, it probably shouldn't be German, as a Russian bomber is needed, and there are already lots of German planes.  The other argument I saw against the Yak-3 was that more early/mid war planes are needed, and not another late war super fighter.  How much will an early/mid war plane be used by members versus a late war plane?  While people of higher skill levels will still use the outdated planes as a skill challenge, it is pretty clear that very strong planes are used more often. Just look at the number of kills in the stronger planes, such as the P51, F4U, and N1K2.  Adding the Yak-3 could give another very popular plane.  While it may be fun for YOU to get another early/mid war plane to mess around with, the vast majority of players aren't going to use it very often.  Not to say that I don't like the mid-war planes.  I just think more of the players would benefit from the Yak-3 than many others.  On a side note, the MiG and LaGG series should also be added (although after an Italian fighter). 

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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2012, 10:43:07 PM »
The Yaks aren't really among the most popular planes. They have two qualities (shared by the Yak-3) that seem to make them less popular: short range, low ammunition load.
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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2012, 11:03:09 PM »
I understand that, however the Yak-3 is a superior fighter in many areas, most notably at lower altitudes.  Just saying, but depending on how they would Model the Yak-3's maneuverability and speed, it has the potential for being an extremely strong fighter.  I really enjoy flying the Yak-9, but adding the Yak-3 would be a very important addition to a sorely under-represented nation's air force. Not to mention the existing Yaks desperately need to have their cockpit updated.  I am not sure whether this variant saw action or not, but the addition of the Yak-3P would mitigate the low ammunition load and weaker hitting power drawbacks.

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Re: Yak-3
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2012, 11:16:54 PM »
I understand that, however the Yak-3 is a superior fighter in many areas, most notably at lower altitudes.  Just saying, but depending on how they would Model the Yak-3's maneuverability and speed, it has the potential for being an extremely strong fighter.  I really enjoy flying the Yak-9, but adding the Yak-3 would be a very important addition to a sorely under-represented nation's air force. Not to mention the existing Yaks desperately need to have their cockpit updated.  I am not sure whether this variant saw action or not, but the addition of the Yak-3P would mitigate the low ammunition load and weaker hitting power drawbacks.

One of the French aces that flew the Yak-3 thought it was a better fighter than the Spitfire and Mustang and superior to anything the Germans could throw at it.

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