Bf 109G-2 Gunther Rall 8./Jg52

[Devil 505]

Small update: added German crosses, modified rear fuselage cammo border, and added some more blurring to wing cammo demarkation.



Thanks for watching.

[Devil 505]

Another small update, I used INK's recomendation for a plasma cloud filter and WOW! The paint just comes alive. Thanks INK. 

You can also see that I added some shading to the crease of the alerions and elevators.

[STEELE]

WAY cool!!  I like how the wings/elevators look like the paint is vinyl graphics  cut out with pinking shears!  
  side note: KN guys have a secret way of flyin g2's with gondies    
I'll never tell!~  

[ink]

very sweet man

now when your ready to get the paint chipping going let me know.

I think the panel lines need a bit more opacity

it is coming along awesome 

[Devil 505]

Thanks guys.

Shemp, I know most of us KN guys use the gondies, but Mr. Rall didn't.

[Debrody]

 
Cant wait to fly it!
Could you put a download link together plz, or pm me?

[Raphael]

LOOKING GREAT, DEVIL!! oh man I will use this. a lot.

[STEELE]

Thanks guys.

Shemp, I know most of us KN guys use the gondies, but Mr. Rall didn't.

   OTOH,   Galland loved gondies, even had wing cannons installed on/in his f model when it came out

[STXAce8]

NICE devil! Now when can I fly this? (psssssssssssssssssst pm me the skin i wanna fly it when you are done with it offline)

[Devil 505]

Markings and stencils applied. I also added exhaust stains. I wasnt satisfied with the cammo mottling on the tail, so after MANY attempts to make something I liked, I went back to the all green paint. Finally, I gave color to the wingtip nav lights.

[Void]

Markings and stencils applied. I also added exhaust stains. I wasnt satisfied with the cammo mottling on the tail, so after MANY attempts to make something I liked, I went back to the all green paint. Finally, I gave color to the wingtip nav lights.
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Wow that plane is really attractive.

[Krusty]

In my opinion your tail fin mottling was quite good, and I liked it better than the solid green/brown, definitely.

Sorry I haven't been faster on the response, to go back to the devil's advocate in viewing those photos, you can't tell from that one photo what color is on the nose because the colors have such little contrast. Even the darker 2-tone mottling is barely distinguishable from monotone spots. One of the hazards of WW2 photography, which was a technology still developing at the time.


I think you've done a fairly nice job. I think you still need to work on some of the details here and there, tweak them, etc. Some things Ink has touched upon already.

However, I'm stuck every time I see it thinking it's too brown. You say you got your shades from Simmer's Paintshop, and this is one of my major beefs with that page: The paint chips are terrible!

I've seen tons of photos, I've handled recreations of the pain colors myself working with scale models, I've seen a lot of more thoroughly researched websites showing better colors. I've tried using Simmer's chips and the end result is always terrible. Simply swapping out the colors for those on better references yields greater end results without doing anything but changing the color!

Here is an excellent reference link:
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/colorcharts.asp
The Germany section can be found here:
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_germany.htm

Naturally these are just the base colors, and you can have a large variation on any one of these after you apply weathering and other layers and effects, etc, but they should be your starting point.

For the standard RLM74/RLM75over RLM76, it will be better to use the following:


Upper left: RLM74 Graugrun, upper right: RLM75 Grauviolett
Lower: RLM76 Lichtblau

I've uploaded a few of the common colors for LW aircraft here:
http://www.nakatomitower.com/models/colors/


The more I look at it, the more it looks too much like an end-of-war K-4 with brown paint rather than a G2 with overspray. It should be more of a 2-tone grey than a grey/green, and the over-spray most likely RLM02 or RLM74 (both chips included in the link above). If you wanted to go more brown-tint, RLM02 is the way to go (I find a slightly darker/weathered version of the paint chip works nice). Mind you this isn't anything against the work you've done so far, just the colors of that work. It's easy enough to tweak if you've got the layers separated (as you do). I've done the same and had the same suggestion made to me a number of times, so it's nothing personal. I just don't think the colors are right.

Otherwise the work so far has been good and it's something I'd fly in the MA, for sure.

[Devil 505]

Thanks Krusty for your input. 

I do like your color chips and will give them a try. Regarding the "brownishness" of the paint, I totally agree. Remember I said that I substituted RLM 73 for 74 because I wanted more a greenish color? Well, it was also brownish. The strait color was fine, but for whatever reason the filter I placed over it really mutes the green. You can also see this on the spinner which is RLM 70 "Black-green", now just looks black. The actual colors are no differant from the very first pics that I posted. I want to see what differance your colors you suggested can give. I may even switch to RLM 72 for the rear cammo.



I'm glad you liked the paint I had on the tail before. The problem I had was that I looked fake to me. It was too neat to be random splotches, but to random to be a neat pattern. You thought it looks like a K-4 now, the mottled tail really made it look like one.  I must have tried 6 differant schemes taken right off other G-2s, but none felt right. But the all green does, and it's no longer boring with the weathering applied. I'm sure that when I do the detail for the fabric rudder it will look even better.

[lyric1]

 

[Greebo]

Great looking skin Devil. I'd suggest making the engine hatch lines a bit more solid than the other panel lines. Otherwise it just needs a few more stains, chips etc. but I suspect you already know that.