Douglas A-26 Invader

[Karnak]

There was the glassnose aswell.

But yeh, US planeset is way too overrepresented compared to the other countries for it to be added anytime soon.

The A-26 didn't handle altitude very well.  It was no B-29, Mosquito Mk XVI or Ar234.

well the other country's planeset is underrepresented most likely because they suck so bad they will be hangar queens.  I understand having some of those planes but if they only are used twice a year in scenarios then why add them?

semp

There are many non-American aircraft that don't suck that could be added.

[Karnak]

A sample of viable in the LWA non-American aircraft for those who hold that was the primary qualification to be added:

British
Fairey Firefly
Halifax
Meteor Mk III

German:
Do217
He162
He177A-5
Ju188A-1

Italian:
G.55
P.108
Re2005

Japanese:
B7A2 'Grace'
D4Y 'Judy'
H8K2 'Emily'
J2M3 'Jack'
J2M5 'Jack'
Ki-44 'Tojo'
Ki-100
Ki-102 'Randy'
P1Y1 'Frances'

Russian:
Il-10
Pe-2
Tu-2
Yak-3

[Butcher]

A sample of viable in the LWA non-American aircraft for those who hold that was the primary qualification to be added:

British
Fairey Firefly
Halifax
Meteor Mk III

German:
Do217
He162
He177A-5
Ju188A-1

Italian:
G.55
P.108
Re2005

Japanese:
B7A2 'Grace'
D4Y 'Judy'
H8K2 'Emily'
J2M3 'Jack'
J2M5 'Jack'
Ki-44 'Tojo'
Ki-100
Ki-102 'Randy'
P1Y1 'Frances'

Russian:
Il-10
Pe-2
Tu-2
Yak-3

You need to give a valid reason why it shouldn't be added, it meets all requirements to be added to aces high, so your argument is invalid, simply vote "no" if you don't want it.

[Karnak]

You need to give a valid reason why it shouldn't be added, it meets all requirements to be added to aces high, so your argument is invalid, simply vote "no" if you don't want it.

I do want it added.  I was refuting guncrasher's claim that all non-American aircraft not added yet would suck.

[guncrasher]

I do want it added.  I was refuting guncrasher's claim that all non-American aircraft not added yet would suck.

the Italian planes you listed are a prime example of planes that suck. 


Semp

[Karnak]

the Italian planes you listed are a prime example of planes that suck. 


Semp

In what way do they "suck"?

Note that they are not the early war, 840hp fighters that did the bulk of the fighting for the Italians.

[Ack-Ack]

the Italian planes you listed are a prime example of planes that suck. 


Semp

You are displaying an overwhelming amount of ignorance. 

ack-ack

[PAKFRONT]

Left out the CR42..

Hell I'd like to try a CR32 vs an I15, or a kestrel engined 109..
But that's just me!

[guncrasher]

You are displaying an overwhelming amount of ignorance. 

ack-ack

well akak since you are playing the bait and sink game as usual to prove your superior knowledge. but considering that all 3 airplanes had low production numbers, the fighters had few kills by ww2 standards and mostly against bombers. and the bomber, well it was slow and basically wasnt used as a bomber.  and you want to add them ahead of the a26 that was produced in higher numbers, had more impact in ww2 than those 3 combined.

just based on low numbers all 3 planes shouldnt even be considered for inclusion ahead of many others who had better production and actually saw more combat like the a26. so taking that into account in my uneducated opinion all 3 airplanes sucked.






semp

[Noir]

well akak since you are playing the bait and sink game as usual to prove your superior knowledge. but considering that all 3 airplanes had low production numbers, the fighters had few kills by ww2 standards and mostly against bombers. and the bomber, well it was slow and basically wasnt used as a bomber.  and you want to add them ahead of the a26 that was produced in higher numbers, had more impact in ww2 than those 3 combined.

just based on low numbers all 3 planes shouldnt even be considered for inclusion ahead of many others who had better production and actually saw more combat like the a26. so taking that into account in my uneducated opinion all 3 airplanes sucked.






semp

'Irrevelant' is the word you are looking for, not 'suck'

[SmokinLoon]

A sample of viable in the LWA non-American aircraft for those who hold that was the primary qualification to be added:

British
Fairey Firefly
Halifax
Meteor Mk III

German:
Do217
He162
He177A-5
Ju188A-1

Italian:
G.55
P.108
Re2005

Japanese:
B7A2 'Grace'
D4Y 'Judy'
H8K2 'Emily'
J2M3 'Jack'
J2M5 'Jack'
Ki-44 'Tojo'
Ki-100
Ki-102 'Randy'
P1Y1 'Frances'

Russian:
Il-10
Pe-2
Tu-2
Yak-3

This is a very good list of aircraft to can be, should be added LONG before the A26 should ever even be considered.   

Oh, and **smacks Karnack backside of the head** you forgot the Wellington and D520!  for SHAME!  I'll give you some slack because you said "LW", but still.   

[Karnak]

This is a very good list of aircraft to can be, should be added LONG before the A26 should ever even be considered.   

Oh, and **smacks Karnack backside of the head** you forgot the Wellington and D520!  for SHAME!  I'll give you some slack because you said "LW", but still.   

That is not a list of aircraft I would create to show what I thought should be added.  Many of those are pretty much irrelevant to the war, but they don't suck.

Some of them were relevant though, much more so than the A-26 which was itself pretty irrelevant.

[dirtdart]

My question is, what plane would get used the most. 

I would love to see the CR-32, IMHO the nicest looking fighting biplane.  It would be that LWMA rarity like the I-16.  You see it now an then, but the overwhelming number of folks run to LW planes.  For further inclusion into the game, I would look at style of airplanes most used in the MA.  The if added the A26 would likely result in a drop in 110, Mosquito, A20, and B-25 sorties.  Only, because it is a plane with similar capability.  But, it would get used nonetheless.  When Lusche throws up the stats, we will get a chance to see the juice/squeeze for the last few planes added.  Maybe then, quantifying this argument. 

Until then, Yes to the invader, the flight model is already out there.  It is sexier looking than the Beaufighter ( lyric)

[Karnak]

The A-26 will not get used that much when it is added because it will be perked.  If not for that, it is pretty far up the list of aircraft that will get used a lot and have not yet been added.

Due to that, I think the G.55, Re2005, P.108, H8K2, J2M, Ki-44, Yak-3, Tu-2, Ju188, Do217, He177, Halifax and Fairey Firefly would certainly be used more often.  The others I listed might or might not get used more often.

[matt]

+1