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Re: Cardiac arrest - how to fix :D
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2012, 12:26:41 PM »
To my knowledge, all ED's have been automatic since at least the late 90s.  They'd stopped teaching heart rhythm analysis to paramedics several years before I was getting my license. 
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Re: Cardiac arrest - how to fix :D
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2012, 01:02:24 PM »
interesting, ill have to ask an acqautance whose a certified paramedic if this is the case. i can not see the sense is teaching less of a subject when there seem to be new things or alterations by the year though.
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Re: Cardiac arrest - how to fix :D
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2012, 01:22:48 PM »
I guess it's just a lot easier to let a computer check for a shockable rhythm than to spend the time to learn how to do it manually.

We did have one really really old machine from the 80s that was just to show us what the old ones looked like back when they had a heartbeat display.  We got to play with it briefly before being told it was obsolete and we'd never ever not never ever gonna use one no how.
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Re: Cardiac arrest - how to fix :D
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2012, 02:37:22 PM »
assuming a medics defib can detect more then thw two or three rhytems a basics can detect that makes sense. although, im pretty sure they still teach heart rhythems, but i can check with my acquatance.
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Re: Cardiac arrest - how to fix :D
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2012, 02:56:12 PM »
I looked it up.  I was surprised to see that they are still being made for use in hospitals and some ambulances.

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Re: Cardiac arrest - how to fix :D
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2012, 03:00:47 PM »
the old defibs? ambulance services i can believe. new defibs for the emt basic are three thousand dollars, would hate to know about a medics defib. as for the hospitals, having equipmwnt that old seems farfetched, but if you searched it im not arguing.
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Re: Cardiac arrest - how to fix :D
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2012, 03:05:41 PM »
nonono

I was wrong, they're still manufactured and used in hospitals and advanced EMT ambulances according to wikipedia.  Although I did a lot with NSP, I realized during my EMTB clinical that I had absolutely no interest in being an EMT anymore.
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Re: Cardiac arrest - how to fix :D
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2012, 06:27:32 AM »
i thought this was the case, but there always seems to be room for change even when there is no room.
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