TO thoese who say aces high as bad graphics.

[Kazan_HB]

Today main arena
 

[TequilaChaser]

Maxing out the FX slider will destroy your FPS, it also does it on my machine. If you look at my benchmarks I have the slider all the way to the left. Do the same and I'm sure you'll be much happier with the results.

Yes, I noticed that it was all the way to the left in your images........ but to me the graphics are not truly maxed out  if the FX slider is not being used  or is all the way left

I would agree that my results would be much improved if I did not use the FX slider in my tests.....

<S>

TC

[Kazaa]

Yes, I noticed that it was all the way to the left in your images........ but to me the graphics are not truly maxed out  if the FX slider is not being used  or is all the way left

I would agree that my results would be much improved if I did not use the FX slider in my tests.....

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TC

To be honest I thought that option was either completely bugged or I didn't have enough video RAM to run it. I've tested the benchmark with the slider half way and the game still runs triple digits.

[Kazaa]

I do not know about that, but really am not interested in a combat sim which does not have realism in terms of aircraft performance (including weaponry and ballistics), air combat and MMO gameplay as its core features. World of Warplanes seem to be more arcadeish in their approach and being the natural sceptic that I am, they will have to prove themselves before I am trying what they offer. I have seen and played a lot of sims throughout the years, since late 1980's and IBM XT 8086 machines, and online since 1998. Aces High is by far the best air combat simulation currently available to the public. It will take a lot from a newcomer to change that. I am of the opinion that HTC has experience and expertise in the genre which is difficult to match. They have found a niche market which is very small, and they know it. The general public is not interested in a difficult and challenging game, they want instant reward not a game you have to learn or even re-learn if you thought you knew something about air combat. A lot of people are intimidated if put in their proper place by a realistic sim, just look at all the whining going on even here in the "that wasn't fair" category.

So anyone who want to make big money on a large customer base, will have to satisfy them in ways which are not compatible with realistic simulation of WW2 air combat. War is not fair, if you set up a fair fight you are fundamentally wrong in your strategy. It is ruthless exploitation of your own strengths vs the weaknesses of the enemy, without mercy, and a lot of people have a problem with that even in a game. Usually you don't get much whining from dead people, their opinion is sortof nullified but in here they find themselves in a tower somewhere and somehow have this idea in their head that it wasn't their fault that they got shot down. Possibly it wasn't... war isn't fair after all, but to whine about it? This is a game... right?  

I also want the most complex simulation. I played Aces High religiously for about 3 years and in total 6? There is not a single genre of gaming that comes even close to the feeling I got from playing AH. I find that even other titles of the genre don't come close to what AH offers in terms of physics and gameplay, the MMO style format is simply unbeatable.

[TequilaChaser]

To be honest I thought that option was completely bugged or I didn't have enough video RAM to run it. I've tested the benchmark with the slider half way and the game still runs triple digits.

it very well may be buggy....... I could not say, and noone has offered up how the FX slider is suppose to work..... I would think that it worked similar to the way ones graphics sliders worked like having notches or whatever one calls them like  x1 , x 2, x4, x 8 , x16 etc......  but not much info regarding the FX slider.....

it does take away or includes parts of the weather( clouds ), terrain, sun glare, etc...... but without any detailed information on setting it, everything is just a guess  or just try and see .......

did you notice the vsync on / off option........ with vsync on, all a persons rates will plummet......   I do like the option of having the ability to play in a window verses full screen though.....

all of what I have said can be found out by loading the alpha benchmark, btw.....  

you posted that it is going into open beta next week,  I must have missed that........ haven't heard anything about it going open beta......

cheers

TC

[bustr]

So for you 2%. Now everyone knows who you are and it's obvious you have been Personaly unhappy with Hitech Creations for some time.

What are you accomplishing besides getting revenge in HTC's showroom and feeding your addiction to spreading your unhappiness? Is it your intention to convert as many of HTC's customers to WoP as you can to salve your hurt feelings? Or is it your intention to hold court as long and as loudly as you can telling HTC's customers how bad the Aces High product is?

So do you believe what you are doing will force HTC in fear for their customer base, or to repair their relationship with yourselves personaly, will tear this game apart and produce a game engine to satisfy your fantasies as a result of this?

Why do you personaly need this revenge? Common and answer. You have outed yourselves. Now cut out all of the sales pitch for WoP and tell your audience why you want revenge against Hitech Creations by selling WoP in the HTC showroom. Now if you are a paid employee of Gajin that's a different story and another kind of evil. But, I doubt you are paied employees so then why do you feel the need for revenge against HTC?

[olds442]

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LOL u have graphics as low as possable yet you complaining?

[james]

LOL u have graphics as low as possable yet you complaining?

He's only getting 37FPS in the first picture with his graphics turned all the way down. What kind of specs are you running in that system with such settings kazan? My set up is almost 6 years old in a quad core 2.6 with 6 gb of ram and running a 512 mb 9600gt card. I get a solid 59 FPS because my monitor is not able to push faster. Still only see 1 core doing any work in the  display as I play the game. I'm not into the overclocking stuff. I'd rather have something that works within its design until I replace it for something better.

[Kazan_HB]

System Information
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Time of this report: 12/22/2011, 17:04:01
       Machine name: TOMASZ-PC
   Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506)
           Language: German (Regional Setting: German)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
       System Model: System Product Name
               BIOS: BIOS Date: 01/26/11 18:07:46 Ver: 08.00.14
          Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T Processor (6 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
             Memory: 8GB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4096MB RAM
          Page File: 1872MB used, 6316MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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          Card name: ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series
       Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
          Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x689E)
           DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_689E&SUBSYS_30701682&REV_00
     Display Memory: 2806 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 1014 MB
      Shared Memory: 1791 MB
       Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: PnP-Monitor (Standard)
      Monitor Model: VW225
         Monitor Id: ACI22A0
        Native Mode: 1680 x 1050(p) (59.954Hz)
        Output Type: DVI
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        DDI Version: 11
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    WHQL Date Stamp:
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     Rank Of Driver: 00E62001[quote author=james link=topic=326732.msg4278421#msg4278421 date=1326

 slideshow  
Optimize the game code!
Why do we bump mapping? It does not you can see in the game ... from a distance of 100 yards

[Kazan_HB]

I Pay and expecting a good product

[Butcher]

LOL u have graphics as low as possable yet you complaining?

Maybe your parents bought you a newer setup, but some of us can't afford to upgrade.

[Butcher]

System Information
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Time of this report: 12/22/2011, 17:04:01
       Machine name: TOMASZ-PC
   Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506)
           Language: German (Regional Setting: German)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
       System Model: System Product Name
               BIOS: BIOS Date: 01/26/11 18:07:46 Ver: 08.00.14
          Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T Processor (6 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
             Memory: 8GB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4096MB RAM
          Page File: 1872MB used, 6316MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
------------
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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          Card name: ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series
       Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
          Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x689E)
           DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_689E&SUBSYS_30701682&REV_00
     Display Memory: 2806 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 1014 MB
      Shared Memory: 1791 MB
       Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: PnP-Monitor (Standard)
      Monitor Model: VW225
         Monitor Id: ACI22A0
        Native Mode: 1680 x 1050(p) (59.954Hz)
        Output Type: DVI
        Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1107 (English)
     Driver Version: 8.920.0.0
        DDI Version: 11
       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
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        WHQL Logo'd: Yes
    WHQL Date Stamp:
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          Vendor ID: 0x1002
          Device ID: 0x689E
          SubSys ID: 0x30701682
        Revision ID: 0x0000
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     Rank Of Driver: 00E62001[quote author=james link=topic=326732.msg4278421#msg4278421 date=1326

 slideshow  
Optimize the game code!
Why do we bump mapping? It does not you can see in the game ... from a distance of 100 yards

Just how old is your ATI Radeon HD 5800? I can't even find it for comparison on any of the hardware websites, that would explain your problem.

[Tigger29]

Just how old is your ATI Radeon HD 5800? I can't even find it for comparison on any of the hardware websites, that would explain your problem.

I think there is something wrong with his system.  I have an Intel E7400 and an ATI HD5830 and I can run it almost maxed out (minus shadows) and see 60FPS almost all of the time.  I know the AMD processor only runs on one core but I think something else is amiss here as well...

[Butcher]

I think there is something wrong with his system.  I have an Intel E7400 and an ATI HD5830 and I can run it almost maxed out (minus shadows) and see 60FPS almost all of the time.  I know the AMD processor only runs on one core but I think something else is amiss here as well...

My laptop (far inferior to his setup) runs almost 20-80 frames given the same action he is in, however I don't know the settings he is using,
I am assuming something is critically an issue as well, perhaps his video drivers are garbage - I know mine for example, i had to get 5-6 different versions of forceware drivers to eventually land the right one that doesn't cause an issue.

I suggest he check out http://downloads.guru3d.com/
look up his video card, and pray its the right drivers.

[james]

Need to see what your wattage is for your power supply and might need to tweak or upgrade the graphics card. It's been too long since i've been into cards. 6 cores aren't great with an amd for this game. It still only takes advantage of one core. Your net status is wierd too. maybe because of coming from across the pong?