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Offline jimbo71

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Close-range tank shells
« on: January 14, 2012, 01:53:38 PM »

Gotten into tanking / gv's for the past few months and have encountered a glitch (at least on my end) w/ tank shells at close range.  Typically I drive a T-34.  When I'm at a range of 1 - 2K or better the shells target fine.  When I'm at close range, inside say 100 - 200 meters off an enemy tank more times than not the shells literally pass straight through the hull or turret.

For the last couple of months I've been playing on an antiquated PC just slightly faster than a Commadore 64, could be a contributing factor.

Was just curious if anyone else has encountered this.


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Re: Close-range tank shells
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2012, 02:05:30 PM »
Probably something to do with the graphics. I can't imagine its a bug in the game or anything. Possibly lag, but seems a bit unlikely.


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Re: Close-range tank shells
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2012, 02:25:23 PM »
I haven't seen shells pass through the target, but I've been convinced for some time that from within 300 yards or so hits are less effective.

I see hit sprites but a shot that would normally be a kill from @ the 800 - 1000 yard mark seems to do nothing up close.

I also suspect that it may just be my perception in the heat of an "Ahhhhh!! I'm gonna die!!!" battle moment.




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Re: Close-range tank shells
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2012, 02:33:13 PM »
I've actually been in tanks when the bad guy's round goes through my engine/hull. It just erved as a warning to me that he was getting too close... Ironwood shrub, here I come!!!

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Re: Close-range tank shells
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2012, 02:48:18 PM »

I will give german tanks a try.  When I first started tanking, I chose the Panzer.  I don't remember if I had this issue or not (slept since then).

Most of these occur when the enemy tank is so close it fills 60-70% of the sights.  At times there's a big birm directly on the other side of him & see the round pass without a hit sprite then poof directly behind him in the birm.

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Re: Close-range tank shells
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2012, 03:27:42 PM »
I've encountered the same bug... it seems to be most prolific if hitting at the bottom of the turret/top of the side area of the tank.  The shell will pass right between the turret and the treads.  Front or rear shots don't seem to do this.  I'll have a side shot go right through the tank, and actually see the puff of dirt go up behind the tank where my shell hit.
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Re: Close-range tank shells
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2012, 05:10:40 PM »
Some appear to hit, when they really don't - tank shells arn't the size of the tank, what appears to be a hit, might instead be a glancing blow off the armor, rear shots are most common with ricochets, or bad angle shots.

If you film it - you can review the film at a slower speed and see exactly where you hit, more often then none - you either glanced off the armor, or completely missed, however the hit sprites do happen, even if its not a kill shot.
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Re: Close-range tank shells
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2012, 05:14:43 PM »
or many times ur round will penitrate but wont do any damage ( kill gunners drivers explode ammo stores...)
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Re: Close-range tank shells
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2012, 05:16:09 PM »
or many times ur round will penitrate but wont do any damage ( kill gunners drivers explode ammo stores...)

I don't recall ever having a driver/gunner killed, be interesting if our damage model included this.
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Re: Close-range tank shells
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2012, 05:23:50 PM »
I've had it say my driver is wounded, but it always results in an automatic, all-expense-paid trip to the tower.
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Re: Close-range tank shells
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2012, 05:32:27 PM »
Happens to me all the time. It's a load of bs
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Re: Close-range tank shells
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2012, 05:44:15 PM »
  Seems it has been happening of late. The Tank I shot in TT PMed me and said "I couldn't believed you missed me". Round went though turret and disappeared. There was a hill behind him and no dirt splash seen.

  Of course his Tank didn't suffer from same affliction.  :uhoh
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Re: Close-range tank shells
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2012, 06:24:37 PM »
probably tank's not really there when ya squeeze the shot off.  IMO :salute
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Re: Close-range tank shells
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2012, 07:24:35 PM »
probably tank's not really there when ya squeeze the shot off.  IMO :salute


Oh he's there alright lol.  Cause as soon as my "phantom shell" does zero damage the enemy turret draws a bead on my tank and I get that all expense paid one-way trip to the :lol tower !
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Re: Close-range tank shells
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2012, 07:55:22 PM »
I am going to take Butcher's advice and film some sorties and review from different angles & film speeds.  When It does happen, I do not see hit sprites.  My ricochet shots always produce a hit sprite with the shell glancing off in one direction or another, but not directly behind the target (continued path of the shot). 

In one side of the armor, through the driver's Battlestar Galactica lunchbox & out the other side
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