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Offline BowHTR

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Re: Puzzle time!
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2012, 03:55:12 PM »

To choose a random answer out of 4, you have a 25% chance to get a correct answer.


25% is the answer, but since there are two 25% choices...both of them are correct...

so you have 2 correct answers to 2 wrong answers... you have 50% chance of getting correct...


...right?

That's what I was thinking at first until clerick started confusing me
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Re: Puzzle time!
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2012, 03:58:24 PM »

To choose a random answer out of 4, you have a 25% chance to get a correct answer.


25% is the answer, but since there are two 25% choices...both of them are correct...

so you have 2 correct answers to 2 wrong answers... you have 50% chance of getting correct...


...right?

you have a 50% of guessing "25%" so A and D cannot be right.

you have a 25% of guessing "50%" and "60%" so they cannot be right.

Since there are no correct answers, you have 0% chance.

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Re: Puzzle time!
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2012, 04:00:41 PM »
you have a 50% of guessing "25%" so A and D cannot be right.

you have a 25% of guessing "50%" and "60%" so they cannot be right.

Since there are no correct answers, you have 0% chance.



It doesn't say which answer is correct, it just asks what are chances that you choose a correct answer... again 25% is the correct number...there are two choices for this answer and 2 wrong ones.... 50%
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Re: Puzzle time!
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2012, 04:05:33 PM »


It doesn't say which answer is correct, it just asks what are chances that you choose a correct answer... again 25% is the correct number...there are two choices for this answer and 2 wrong ones.... 50%

lol you cannot have 2 correct yet distinclty different answers. If 25% is correct then 50% cannot be the answer and vise-versa.

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Re: Puzzle time!
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2012, 04:08:39 PM »
lol you cannot have 2 correct yet distinclty different answers. If 25% is correct then 50% cannot be the answer and vise-versa.


Why not? Nothing in the rule book says that two answers cannot be the same and correct...
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Re: Puzzle time!
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2012, 04:11:47 PM »
There are 4 choices. Since two of those choices (25%) are the same, you remove one of them. So now, the choices look like this.

A) 25%
B) 50%
C) 60%

Now there are only three possible answers, and out of three, one of them is right, hence, 33.3% chance of getting a right answer. The problem is. The answer is not there So this question cannot be answered given the choices.


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Re: Puzzle time!
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2012, 04:13:24 PM »
WTF MY FRIEND POSTED THIS ON HIS PHONE!!!!

His teacher put it on the board... but they look the exact same...

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Re: Puzzle time!
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2012, 04:27:15 PM »

Why not? Nothing in the rule book says that two answers cannot be the same and correct...
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Re: Puzzle time!
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2012, 04:33:38 PM »
The answer changes depending on how far you take it. It will always be either 25% or 50% depending on on which step of the overthinking process you're on.

At first glance, its 25% since theres 4 possible answers.

But two of them give the same correct answer, which changes the answer to 50%

Upon a third look, you see that since the answer is 50%, that the two 25% answers are no longer correct, which drops the odds back down to 25%.

Then you're back at the first step, because 25% is once again the correct answer. But there are two 25% options, which raises the odds back up to 50%.

Congratulations, you've created a paradox  :aok.



So really, there is no answer. 25% is wrong, 50% is wrong, 66% is wrong, and so is 0%, as well as 33.3(1/3)%. This is an example of something that is mathematicaly impossible, but that should have an answer if only you can work your way through it. Mathematicians will probably create another imaginary number, similar to i because they can't accept that some things just don't have an answer.

You've just screwed over the future school children by creating something new, irrelevent, and completly useless in all real world applications for them to learn.
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Re: Puzzle time!
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2012, 04:43:09 PM »
The answer changes depending on how far you take it. It will always be either 25% or 50% depending on on which step of the overthinking process you're on.

At first glance, its 25% since theres 4 possible answers.

But two of them give the same correct answer, which changes the answer to 50%

Upon a third look, you see that since the answer is 50%, that the two 25% answers are no longer correct, which drops the odds back down to 25%.

Then you're back at the first step, because 25% is once again the correct answer. But there are two 25% options, which raises the odds back up to 50%.
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Re: Puzzle time!
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2012, 05:28:07 PM »
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Re: Puzzle time!
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2012, 08:37:22 PM »
The answer changes depending on how far you take it. It will always be either 25% or 50% depending on on which step of the overthinking process you're on.

At first glance, its 25% since theres 4 possible answers.

But two of them give the same correct answer, which changes the answer to 50%

Upon a third look, you see that since the answer is 50%, that the two 25% answers are no longer correct, which drops the odds back down to 25%.

Then you're back at the first step, because 25% is once again the correct answer. But there are two 25% options, which raises the odds back up to 50%.

Congratulations, you've created a paradox  :aok.



So really, there is no answer. 25% is wrong, 50% is wrong, 66% is wrong, and so is 0%, as well as 33.3(1/3)%. This is an example of something that is mathematicaly impossible, but that should have an answer if only you can work your way through it. Mathematicians will probably create another imaginary number, similar to i because they can't accept that some things just don't have an answer.

You've just screwed over the future school children by creating something new, irrelevent, and completly useless in all real world applications for them to learn.

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Re: Puzzle time!
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2012, 08:46:04 PM »
What are the chances of randomly choosing a correct answer out of four options.
25%
What if two of those four options where the correct answer?
50%
You would have a 50% chance of answering correctly, therefore the answer is 50%.

You have a 1 in 4 chance of being correct, which is raised to 2 in 4 after the answer appears twice.

It's probability, not equation solving.
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Re: Puzzle time!
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2012, 09:06:11 PM »
However, by answering 50% one invalidates 25% as a correct answer, thus bringing the probability down to 25%.  This cycle creates a paradox.

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Re: Puzzle time!
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2012, 10:16:39 PM »
However, by answering 50% one invalidates 25% as a correct answer, thus bringing the probability down to 25%.  This cycle creates a paradox.

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What everyone is forgetting is the question asks to make a probability of selecting a correct answer, IT DOES NOT ASK TO SELECT A,B,C, or D, all it asks is what is the chances of choosing 25%...


.... 50%
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