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Offline ttflier

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Re: ENY SYSTEM SUCKS
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2012, 12:43:13 PM »
Maybe low eny planes cross a threshold into being "perked" instead of unavailable in unbalanced situations.
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Re: ENY SYSTEM SUCKS
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2012, 01:03:47 PM »
Maybe low eny planes cross a threshold into being "perked" instead of unavailable in unbalanced situations.

+1 that would be logical
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Re: ENY SYSTEM SUCKS
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2012, 03:41:48 PM »
Maybe low eny planes cross a threshold into being "perked" instead of unavailable in unbalanced situations.
Then you may as well just dump ENY and let people fly whatever they want no matter the side balance.
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Re: ENY SYSTEM SUCKS
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2012, 03:47:50 PM »
Maybe, maybe not.

Paying a price for an uber ride certainly might discourage some folks from flying them. Could also cut both ways - "perked" planes could become "unperked" for the disadvantaged countries.
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Re: ENY SYSTEM SUCKS
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2012, 03:52:08 PM »
Maybe, maybe not.

Paying a price for an uber ride certainly might discourage some folks from flying them. Could also cut both ways - "perked" planes could become "unperked" for the disadvantaged countries.

Cost in perks already changes.................
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Re: ENY SYSTEM SUCKS
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2012, 09:06:11 PM »
ENY, No ENY. doesnt matter to me one way or the other. Take away one plane and I'll just fly another. I'll collect my fair share of scalps either way.
My success is generally dictated not by the plane Im in but rather the number of planes I have to go against at once. And even then not always.

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Re: ENY SYSTEM SUCKS
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2012, 09:43:10 PM »
The above being said. The primary problem I see with ENY IMO is it doesnt do anything to balance the two country on 1 gangbang

Where you could have a situation of                             (All numbers are hypothetical examples only)

country "A" - 100 players
country "B" - 100 players
country "C" - 100 players

Eny would be balanced

But I've seen situations where Country B and C are attacking country A while largely ignoring each other leaving country "A" to face and be at a 2-1 disadvantage no matter which side they fight against

There are also other variations of this where the larger numbered side gets ganged by the two lower numbered sides

country "A" - 100 players
country "B" - 75 players
country "C" - 70 players

Where country A may be under penalty of ENY but in reality is fighting against superior numbers.

Which is why I would favor either a Base,zone or front based ENY
Each side would still be able to fly whatever plane they wanted. But the more uber rides might have to take off from farther back to get to the fight in the effected zone.
You could still engage in your vulch fest or horde. But to take off from the nearest base. you might have to take a less uber ride to get to the fight more quickly.


Like I said. It matters not to me what ENY is personally. But I do see what I view is flaws in the system.
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Re: ENY SYSTEM SUCKS
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2012, 10:15:29 PM »
Then you may as well just dump ENY and let people fly whatever they want no matter the side balance.


Some people in the game have more perks than can ever be used, have to agree with Karnak on that reply, as much as it pains me to do so. :headscratch:
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Re: ENY SYSTEM SUCKS
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2012, 10:37:34 PM »
eny really isnt the problem. its what the game has turned into and that is a hord land grap at what ever cost game. there are no tatictic any more. you try to  defend and you have  20 guys ho raming what they can do to kill you.   who wants to deal with that. any more i just log and go play wot. its really said to see what this game has turned into.lost a lot of the sqd and more  talking about leaving the game.... eny does not stop a hord.... if they are hell bent to hit a base with half there country they going to find away.maybe if eny effected troops and ords maybe that would  help.   

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Re: ENY SYSTEM SUCKS
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2012, 10:54:51 PM »
I agree that the ENY system does nothing to balance the sides...  I also think it needs to be reworked.

When I started in AH in 2008, I was part of the Bishop horde that existed then.  Mostly flying 110Gs to take towns down and then kill at any cost any fighter that dared to make a run for town to kill goons or troops.

We frequently were impacted by ENY...  Many times we were unable to fly our 110s...  I can remember waiting in the tower while the mission organizers watched the current ENY...  I remember missions launching, but half the mission never launched because ENY changed during launch, so half the grou couldn't take off in our 110s or Niki's.

How often does that happen now?

I can't remember the last time ENY had any effect on what I upped in...  Granted, I like some of the higher ENY planes now...  And I don't give a crap about winning maps...

Does ENY ever impact anyone anymore?

I think the percentages that cause ENY to kick in need to be adjusted to be effective in our current AH world....

I also think that the side switching timer needs to be toned waaaaay the hell down...  Twelve hours is crazy.  ENY cannot help balance sides at 12 hour switch limits.

Keep in mind that I am a member of a squadron that only switches at the beginning of tours.  So, the side switch limit doesn't affect how I play, but I still think that 12 hours is silly...

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Re: ENY SYSTEM SUCKS
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2012, 11:00:00 PM »
i think eny should have an "in flight" component, it is a better indicator of playing numbers. i know i have left game up and running when i cant play and I'm sure many others do too. its a habit from the to arena days when you wanted to make show you were in the more populated arena.

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Re: ENY SYSTEM SUCKS
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2012, 01:06:27 AM »
Pick a bird that isn't impacted by ENY.  I don't ever recall not being able to fly my 38G :)
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Re: ENY SYSTEM SUCKS
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2012, 01:19:23 AM »
Pick a bird that isn't impacted by ENY.  I don't ever recall not being able to fly my 38G :)

My only beef with ENY is that it is not effective enough. I believe that it's weighting should be stronger and the side switching time be lower. This would encourage a re-balancing of sides. As the current system does not, only penalizes the side with the most numbers.
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Re: ENY SYSTEM SUCKS
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2012, 01:50:19 AM »
eny does not work. just look what knights did. had eny of 20 plus and still had no problems hording bases. eny  should effect ord payload and  troops eny gets to high no more big bombs and troops size goes down. still want to take base takes  goons can only take say  so many troops@ what ever the % eny at and same for ords. high eny smaller bombs, less he round ect.. current system  does not work... end of storie...

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Re: ENY SYSTEM SUCKS
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2012, 06:35:19 AM »

Some people in the game have more perks than can ever be used, have to agree with Karnak on that reply, as much as it pains me to do so. :headscratch:

I don't think this is a problem worth worrying about though.

Why do some players have gobs of perk points to use as they wish?  It's generally going to be because these players are mainly flying higher-ENY planes to kill lower-ENY planes, and are likely doing it while flying for the lower-numbers country.  Also, they generally have high perk "accounts" because they aren't blowing them on perked low-ENY planes; they're instead continuing to fly their high-ENY planes to kill the low-ENY planes.

Players with vast perk point accounts are probably the last guys that anyone needs to worry about, and are also the last guys to be effected by ENY...
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