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Offline F22RaptorDude

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Re: Can Yall sign this Petition against SOPA and PIPA
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2012, 09:39:06 PM »

:rofl :rofl Cause I figured it would jump into a political discussion which it didn't
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Re: Can Yall sign this Petition against SOPA and PIPA
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2012, 10:07:44 PM »
A major concern is the legal mechanism to make a determination. It should go through the courts, not the AGs office. One note, the White House made this statement after House leadership said DOA.

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Re: Can Yall sign this Petition against SOPA and PIPA
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2012, 10:55:07 PM »
IF IT DID happen i would be pissed, but would love reddit getting shut down.

Why is that?
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Re: Can Yall sign this Petition against SOPA and PIPA
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2012, 11:48:36 PM »
I agree 100%.  I am a professional photographer.  My work is my property.  Selling it is how I pay my bills.  When somebody grabs it and uses it without my permission, they are stealing from me. 

I don't see how this bill would help you in any way whatsoever.

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Re: Can Yall sign this Petition against SOPA and PIPA
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2012, 12:14:30 AM »
So what the hell is all the fuss about?  As far as I can see, It's just an expansion of copyright laws that are already in place.  Is it similar to the whole Lars Ulrich and Napster thing just on a larger scale?  As far as I am concerned, copyright laws that apply to books and tangible material should apply to the web as well.  Now how would this shut down the internet again?

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Re: Can Yall sign this Petition against SOPA and PIPA
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2012, 12:23:03 AM »
So what the hell is all the fuss about?  As far as I can see, It's just an expansion of copyright laws that are already in place.  Is it similar to the whole Lars Ulrich and Napster thing just on a larger scale?  As far as I am concerned, copyright laws that apply to books and tangible material should apply to the web as well.  Now how would this shut down the internet again?
I have a feeling that's what it amounts to, however I don't know for sure. I signed the stupid petition a few months back when it went around, as they make it sound like something super scary. However, after getting umpteen emails from them between now and then asking me to sign more stuff, and call my senators ad nauseum, I finally asked to be removed from their email list.

I personally agree with you, but at the same time it's something that shouldn't have to exist (if in fact it would even do so much damage as they say it would), but after hearing about it for months I just don't want to mess with it anymore. If they really want it passed, I figure my shallow pockets isn't going to persuade them either way.

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Re: Can Yall sign this Petition against SOPA and PIPA
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2012, 03:31:00 AM »


Had to do it... Hopefully you get the message :)
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Re: Can Yall sign this Petition against SOPA and PIPA
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2012, 05:13:42 AM »
 :D :aok :lol
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Re: Can Yall sign this Petition against SOPA and PIPA
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2012, 07:30:24 AM »
I fear we will not change anything until we have lost everything.
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Re: Can Yall sign this Petition against SOPA and PIPA
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2012, 08:01:40 AM »

LOL, that's great.
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Re: Can Yall sign this Petition against SOPA and PIPA
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2012, 08:04:44 AM »
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Re: Can Yall sign this Petition against SOPA and PIPA
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2012, 08:14:18 AM »
Amusing, but whoever made it did steal the image of Oprah.  Somewhere there is a photographer who makes a living capturing and then selling images like that.  The image is his property.  He paid thousands of dollars for his equipment.  He may have paid thousands of dollars just to have the right to take the photographs at whatever event that was.

What gives anyone the right to google Oprah images and then simply copy the image and use it for whatever they want without asking for permission or paying for it?

It is theft.  It is a violation of CURRENT copy right law.

You might think that it is harmless, but if copy right laws don't apply to this kind of theft, why should they apply when a when a website uses the image?...  Or a newspaper?...  Or a magazine?...  

Where is the line of protection for the photographer?

I haven't read the SOPA/PIPA legislation, so I can't really comment on it one way or the other, but this naive view that you should be allowed to do whatever the heck you want on the internet without regard to copy rights is simply shortsighted and illustrates the juvenile nature of most of the opposition to SOPA/PIPA.  It's a lot of "Oh Noez!  DOn't take my youtubez away!  My freedomz of speechz!"
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Re: Can Yall sign this Petition against SOPA and PIPA
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2012, 08:23:11 AM »
A persons image is not automatically protected by copyright law. You can't make a judgment about copyright infringement unless you know the source of the material.
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Re: Can Yall sign this Petition against SOPA and PIPA
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2012, 08:32:25 AM »
I dont get it...  :cry
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Re: Can Yall sign this Petition against SOPA and PIPA
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2012, 08:33:46 AM »
Amusing, but whoever made it did steal the image of Oprah.  Somewhere there is a photographer who makes a living capturing and then selling images like that.  The image is his property.  He paid thousands of dollars for his equipment.  He may have paid thousands of dollars just to have the right to take the photographs at whatever event that was.

What gives anyone the right to google Oprah images and then simply copy the image and use it for whatever they want without asking for permission or paying for it?

It is theft.  It is a violation of CURRENT copy right law.

You might think that it is harmless, but if copy right laws don't apply to this kind of theft, why should they apply when a when a website uses the image?...  Or a newspaper?...  Or a magazine?...  

Where is the line of protection for the photographer?

I haven't read the SOPA/PIPA legislation, so I can't really comment on it one way or the other, but this naive view that you should be allowed to do whatever the heck you want on the internet without regard to copy rights is simply shortsighted and illustrates the juvenile nature of most of the opposition to SOPA/PIPA.  It's a lot of "Oh Noez!  DOn't take my youtubez away!  My freedomz of speechz!"

Yet you have.  :headscratch:

I've always figured you for a pretty smart guy and, as such, should know that nothing is copyrighted until a copyright has been applied for and granted.

I believe that the current fee is ~ $25 USD.

Not a bad price if one gets a chance to photograph Jesus.

Seriously, you should read it.  It's not pretty.  It is deeper than losing youtube, etc.

As a musician, I completely understand how you feel about your art but, as with any other type of censorship, it must be done carefully.
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