how about neutral airfields then

[davidwales]

neutral airfields could be used in this game on those little islands that no one uses , they could be put there with no anti aircraft guns a few indestructables to hide in and a rearming station , and why cant rearming stations be classed as a legit target on any base , this would increase mission morale and base missions more tactiful , and i have searched the threads no one has thought of it before 

[wil3ur]

They could be like Switzerland, and you can only dock there for 72 hours, then you gotta leave... so you scuttle the Graf Speesmark

[guncrasher]

good idea,  however will hardly ever get used.  people who up for a mission dont up with enough fuel to go 1/2 way somewhere.  besides not many people actually rearm anywhere.  some do, most just get another airplane.  and if you are talking about a long range mission, well the time it takes to land and refuel then climb back up to 20k+ will give the enemy more than enough time to get organized and shoot you down.


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[Tupac]

Definitely a neat idea for scenarios

[Motherland]

They could be like Switzerland, and you can only dock there for 72 hours, then you gotta leave... so you scuttle the Graf Speesmark

On many occasions Switzerland shot down combat aircraft that entered its airspace. Any pilots that were forced down in Switzerland stayed in internment camps until the end of the war. If I remember correctly Allied bomber crews weren't treated too nicely, either.
The Republic of Ireland also interned pilots that were forced to land in its borders.

That's just not really how neutrality works. You can't just intrude on sovereign airspace.

[Ack-Ack]

On many occasions Switzerland shot down combat aircraft that entered its airspace. Any pilots that were forced down in Switzerland stayed in internment camps until the end of the war. If I remember correctly Allied bomber crews weren't treated too nicely, either.

That is incorrect, Allied internees in Switzerland were treated very, very well.  My fiance's uncle who was interned for a short time in Switzerland during the war (he escaped back to England) described it as pretty much being on holiday and the internees treated their confinement as such.

ack-ack

[wil3ur]

I'm talking about at the battle of the Golden Corral Sea when the British forced the German Battleship Graf Speesmark into port in Switzerland, where they were trapped by the Monitor.  They were finally kicked out of port, and scuttled their boat, then spent the rest of the war at club med.

[Motherland]

That is incorrect, Allied internees in Switzerland were treated very, very well.  My fiance's uncle who was interned for a short time in Switzerland during the war (he escaped back to England) described it as pretty much being on holiday and the internees treated their confinement as such.

ack-ack

Hmm, I wonder where I got that from then. Maybe I'm thinking of another country, but I seem to remember that internees... somewhere at least were treated fairly harshly, apparently due to errant allied bomb drops on that country's soil.

I'm talking about at the battle of the Golden Corral Sea when the British forced the German Battleship Graf Speesmark into port in Switzerland, where they were trapped by the Monitor.  They were finally kicked out of port, and scuttled their boat, then spent the rest of the war at club med.

lol

[guncrasher]

Hmm, I wonder where I got that from then. Maybe I'm thinking of another country, but I seem to remember that internees... somewhere at least were treated fairly harshly, apparently due to errant allied bomb drops on that country's soil.

you may be thinking of vichy france or perhaps spain.


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[Butcher]

On many occasions Switzerland shot down combat aircraft that entered its airspace. Any pilots that were forced down in Switzerland stayed in internment camps until the end of the war. If I remember correctly Allied bomber crews weren't treated too nicely, either.
The Republic of Ireland also interned pilots that were forced to land in its borders.

That's just not really how neutrality works. You can't just intrude on sovereign airspace.

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You must be reading wikipedia, Allied aircrews in Switzerland were treated quite well. Same for German prisoners in the United States. Some delivered bread and left internment camps without any escorting military police. In Switzerland it was well known Americans that were "detained" were treated as it was a holiday vacation, and not as a prisoner of war. I forget the book, but one specifically said one of the airmen was eating better then he did back on a ranch in montana, even wrote his mother a letter of the different meals he ate daily.

[EVZ]

You must be reading wikipedia, Allied aircrews in Switzerland were treated quite well. Same for German prisoners in the United States. Some delivered bread and left internment camps without any escorting military police. In Switzerland it was well known Americans that were "detained" were treated as it was a holiday vacation, and not as a prisoner of war. I forget the book, but one specifically said one of the airmen was eating better then he did back on a ranch in montana, even wrote his mother a letter of the different meals he ate daily.

Actually both sides are right in this dispute ... INITIALLY the Swiss were VERY hostile to allied incursions, they DID threaten to attack warplanes that intruded on Swiss territory ... Downed Allied Pilots were treated humanely, but were strongly guarded. The Germans demanded that ALLIED pilots be turned over to Germany.  I don't think the Swiss ever DID that, but there were factions in the government that wanted to. GERMAN PILOTS were returned almost immediately, some of them were then SHOT as deserters .... UNTIL ... The allies invaded and it became apparent they would win the war ... AT THAT POINT ... allied airmen became Honered GUESTS, injured personnel were turned over to the British consulate and returned home. The Swiss started making noise about how many allied personnel they had RESCUED and PROTECTED from those Nasty Germans.

[davidwales]

i remember on the old style maps and old vh bases we congragated on a small island and launched a mission from there , it was the best mission i have took part in , it opened up a new front which won the war , within hours , it was well thought off , and this sceario may open up more tacticul missions ,if we had a few scattered fields around that could be used when the front became close enough for drop tanks etc , also do you think making the rearming point on any base a legit target with a down time of 15 mins , this will be bade for ace pilots as they will have to fly to another field to rearm , making the game for fun . also the swiss made millions shipping iron during ww2 to the germans , i suppose that is why they kept it neutral , and allowed allied aircraft to breach its airspace 

[Selino631]

i think this is a pretty good idea OP.

+1

[davidwales]

The Swiss used their Bf-109Es in several furious dogfights with the Luftwaffe over airspace incursions during the invasion of France, with the Luftwaffe losing a handful of He-111s and Bf-110s, to the loss of a few Swiss Bf-109s.

now this sounds as if they were running with the fox and the hounds 

[Slade]

+1  one the idea.