Question for VBrigade guys

[PFactorDave]

What is the problem just rearming?  You don't need hangars to rearm.  Do it in shifts, to prevent the vulching.  Squads rearm in shifts during FSO and Scenarios all the time.  It would be a good skill to develop in a squad.

[Guppy35]

Not to derail the thread, but I happened to be defending a base and a bunch of V guys showed up to help in the defense.  They did a good job.  The funny part to me was the commentary on local.  It was absolutely the same comments that go on when you are defending a base when a mob of V guys are there.  Complaints about hording, HO'ing, lack of skill etc.

The more things in this game change the more they sound the same or something like that

[dirtdart]

Corky take the v guys out of the picture. I think the idea of having to defend a captured base against a quick counterattack is intriguing.

[AWwrgwy]

You sure do make it sound easy to recapture a base after it has been captured.  Let me break it down.

 

I agree with Grizz, it aint that easy or it would be happening at the same rate as the initial horde capture



JUGgler

The reason it doesn't happen is because no one even tries.

I tried to do it solo recently and, yes, I failed, because I could not get a single person to help.

I de-acked the town, got a goon and flew back. The town started popping but those friendlies there were busy trying to kill the fighter hangers. I landed the goon and still no one on the town. Goon killed by that lone upper you speak of.

I'd say retakes aren't for the lack of trying but they are for the lack of trying.

I managed to de-ack the town, shoot down a random BUFF, and RTB before returning with a goon.

So, the answer is for the ack to stay down after the capture? What about that single, lone defender.....?

It's toooo haaaaarrrd. 

wrongway

[grizz441]

Lolz, the last thing this game is is too hard for me. All I'm looking for is a logical approach to improve gameplay across the board. I've explained why changing this would, others have agreed.  Has nothing to do with things being "too hard", that is an incredibly myopic view because u once almost recaptured a base by yourself.  If you could read between the lines you would see that the intent is not to make it easier to recapture but instead to force the rolling horde to stick around and defend real estate that logically would have low defenses after being leveled.

[wil3ur]

I'd still like to see a complete drop of everything on base upon base capture, and require a resupply, or standard respawn times for stuff to come back.  Why would I leave a bunch of ord sitting around for you to drop on me as I evacuate a base?  Why would my troops suddenly join your army just because you took my base?  Why would I leave Radar intact so you could track and kill my retreating masses?

[Ardy123]

At one point there was some interest in adding a 'first person infantry' role to the game if I remember correctly. This could fit in nicely with having bases' auto ack take time to repair. I can just see having guys on the ground in the town protecting it from someone sneaking in with troop right after it has been captured etc... It could also add a new role to the storch plane too.

[kilo2]

Lolz, the last thing this game is is too hard for me. All I'm looking for is a logical approach to improve gameplay across the board. I've explained why changing this would, others have agreed.  Has nothing to do with things being "too hard", that is an incredibly myopic view because u once almost recaptured a base by yourself.  If you could read between the lines you would see that the intent is not to make it easier to recapture but instead to force the rolling horde to stick around and defend real estate that logically would have low defenses after being leveled.

I think all that would be accomplished would be no one around after 10 minutes. Once guns pop everyone lands. Or everyone lands and goes to another base immediately. While you take the base they just left they take another somewhere else.  Nothing is gained and we have maps for ever or 1 week at a time.

I think you and others place to high a value on bases.

[RealDeal]

Not necessarily.  I see the vguys just being "efficient".  There is no incentive to stick around to defend a base that defends itself the instant you capture it.

I don't see much point in defending any base since you'll just be pushed back to a base that has all the same planes, tanks, and automobiles. The only appreciable difference that I know of is that the new base isn't full of holes and theres no horde overhead.

[SEseph]

In RISK, no matter how big the horde that took the territory, someone must be left behind to hold a garrison. It should be the same way here IMO. Maybe it should be once a capture takes place, your manned ack comes up (put some functioning manned ack in the town please) and the auto ack comes up after 45 minutes like the town buildings (or with). Now, this could be accelerated by resupplying the base, but would ONLY affect the ack, not the town. Basically requiring the newly captured base to have it's guns and what not 'trucked' in.

I can't believe I'm doing this... I've seen alot of the vGuys lately being very side oriented in terms of working with the team. Be it defense, attacks, joining missions etc etc, they are not the squad we saw 6+ months ago in how they operate for the most part. Some are still really big Richard Craniums, and follow the old sentiment only, but mostly they have evolved past it. So, for the most part, these comments of them not defending or only doing a horde should really be withdrawn, as should a thread meant partly to antagonize.

Yes, I, the guy who spoke out against the method of the vGuys so passionately, have just stood up for them. It is 2012, tho, so maybe that's why the snowballs all have little horns and devil tails. 

[Rob52240]

Seems to me the topic of this thread has changed to 

"How we should change the rules in Aces High in order to counter the Devil's Brigade?"

You still give us far too much attention as well as attribute way too much of what the bishops are doing to what the Devil's Brigade is doing.  I'm flattered but this has gotten out of hand.

[killnu]

wow, did that above post really just happen?!?!       

[JUGgler]

wow, did that above post really just happen?!?!       

Yes it did, now get back in the game dweeb!!


We miss joo!


      



JUGgler

[Daddkev]

  :OI like vGuys.....they have a cream filling that spreads over the sky nicely!

[Butcher]

Seems to me the topic of this thread has changed to 

"How we should change the rules in Aces High in order to counter the Devil's Brigade?"

You mean a squad that will not face any opposition what so ever and storms undefended bases, for example If your NOE get's busted your entire raid of 20 something bails out instead of facing a handful of defenders?

Not something i'd be openly ecstatic about.