salmander HE162

[blood_scout67]

right this subject needs to be address as it looks cool and 320 (about) were made http://ww2drawings.jexiste.fr/Files/2-Airplanes/Axis/1-Germany/01-Fighters/He-162/He-162M-6(A-1).htm and really we need a new jet fight/ intercepter

[blood_scout67]

any one that reads this i posted twice by acciendent

[Selino631]

2 things:

1. If anything need to be added or updated. HiTech needs to update the last few AH1 aircraft.

2. we dont need another short range jet. The Me163 is hardly ever used to begin with. the Salamander would be no diffrent.

[MachFly]

So why do we need a new jet and why do we need this particular one?

[blood_scout67]

no one uses the komet cause it is a rocket plane that practicely impostable to land in the salmander is different it has wheels and is a jet not a rocket we need this one because it way more manvirable than the me 262 giving the less expert user freedom to fly while the me262 is hard to turn and isnt friendly to its user

So why do we need a new jet and why do we need this particular one?

2 things:

1. If anything need to be added or updated. HiTech needs to update the last few AH1 aircraft.

2. we dont need another short range jet. The Me163 is hardly ever used to begin with. the Salamander would be no diffrent.

[Tank-Ace]

Completly wrong. Nobody flys the 163 because the damn thing has no real range, and very little ammo. Landing one is arguably even easier than landing a 262.


And the main issue for 262 pilots is everyone within icon range instantly being aware of them, trying to make crossing shots with what is one of the worst guns (balisticly) in the game, and dealing with everyone trying to ho, pick, and alt monkey you.

The 162 would be no different.

[MachFly]

we need this one because it way more manvirable than the me 262 giving the less expert user freedom to fly while the me262 is hard to turn and isnt friendly to its user  

Could you elaborate on that?
Specifically do you have the weight (empty and gross), power to weight ratio, and wing loading for both jets? This would show how much more maneuverable it is and give us an idea on whether it's needed or not. Also could you explain what you mean by "Me 262 ... isnt friendly to its user"  and how will the He-162 be more user friendly?


If what you are saying about it's maneuverability is correct than I think it will be a good plane to have. However I do think the Gloster Meteor should take priority as we don't have any Allied jets, and that is a good airplane.

[blood_scout67]

Could you elaborate on that?
Specifically do you have the weight (empty and gross), power to weight ratio, and wing loading for both jets? This would show how much more maneuverable it is and give us an idea on whether it's needed or not. Also could you explain what you mean by "Me 262 ... isnt friendly to its user"  and how will the He-162 be more user friendly?


If what you are saying about it's maneuverability is correct than I think it will be a good plane to have. However I do think the Gloster Meteor should take priority as we don't have any Allied jets, and that is a good airplane.

yeah the gloss should take priority what i mean by maneurvable is the me262 has a problem when i fly it the plane doesnt respond very well it doesnt bank proply and when i dive i cant get the thing to fly and i die the thing a bout the he is the preformance thkis where the maneuverability comes in the he 162A-2 had maximum speed at normal thrust of 490 mph (789 kph) and at sea level (deck) at roughly 19 685 ft it can reach speed of 520 mph this speed could be increased for short peroids

[Tom5572]

yeah the gloss should take priority what i mean by maneurvable is the me262 has a problem when i fly it the plane doesnt respond very well it doesnt bank proply and when i dive i cant get the thing to fly and i die the thing a bout the he is the preformance thkis where the maneuverability comes in the he 162A-2 had maximum speed at normal thrust of 490 mph (789 kph) and at sea level (deck) at roughly 19 685 ft it can reach speed of 520 mph this speed could be increased for short peroids

It is INteresting, your last word was "periods".

[mthrockmor]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_162

Well, it seems to pass the test. Was fielded in squad strength and apparently saw combat. This now goes on my wish list but way down. I agree lots of other birds to consider before we get to this.

Boo

[mbailey]

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[blood_scout67]

i forgot to mention that the plane packs very inpressive fire power 50 rrounds per gun 30mm mk 108 cannon or 120 rounds per gun at 20mm mg 151 

[blood_scout67]

by the way the salmander is lighter than me 262 the max combat weight of a salmander is 2700 kg way light meaning it is more manuervable than the me262 which is 7130 kg so i hope this stops any conlict over the manuering because its light it got off the ground quicker and wasnt shot down like when most of allies ace got their kills over me262

[Selino631]

It is INteresting, your last word was "periods".

LOL



And the Salamander would suck, you say its better then the Me 262 so it'd be even higher perked, nobody would fly it. plus there is so many other planes that need to be added over that.

[EagleDNY]

The 162 would be interesting, but I don't think it would get the usage you think it will because it would be a "ripper".  The 162 is made primarily of WOOD and was made to be a cheap alternative to the 262.  I'd bet running that beast up to 500mph and pulling some high-Gs is likely to get you the sound of splintering wood and a quick trip into the dirt.  I also remember that there was an issue with "snaking" at high speed / high AoA that was mitigated (but not completely fixed) by the downturned wingtips.  Even if we got the A-2 model, this thing has short legs - 30 minutes at full fuel at sea level IRL - then add a fuel burn mult of x2 for the MA.  2x20mm with 120rpg is OK (A-2 model). 
If your mission is to up quickly, climb fast, make a couple passes against some bombers and then run for home - the 162 would be an interesting alternative - a midpoint between the 163 and the 262. 

If they make it, I'll give her a try, but I think there are probably better rides to add first.