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Offline Scotty55OEFVet

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Re: salmander HE162
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2012, 01:46:07 PM »
Could you elaborate on that?
Specifically do you have the weight (empty and gross), power to weight ratio, and wing loading for both jets? This would show how much more maneuverable it is and give us an idea on whether it's needed or not. Also could you explain what you mean by "Me 262 ... isnt friendly to its user"  and how will the He-162 be more user friendly?


If what you are saying about it's maneuverability is correct than I think it will be a good plane to have. However I do think the Gloster Meteor should take priority as we don't have any Allied jets, and that is a good airplane.

Ummm, I hardly ever fly the 262 and I can turn it pretty easily and Im sure that there are more than a few guys in the MA that can consistently land 5+ Kills in one. Just cuz you either A)never have enough perks, or B)just don't make an effort to ask one of the 262 aces in the MAs you can't ask for a halfarse Jet to fly cuz YOU want it....
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Re: salmander HE162
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2012, 02:31:49 PM »
i have researched this plane from top to bottom the plane can travel very fast and has a range of up to 120mins of fuel at full speed which might i add is faster than the me262 next the plane looks cool but its draw back is fire power still more than enough to handle a group of bombers but it hasnt got much firepower as the me262 has plus as i mention in a pre post it got of the ground quicker
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Re: salmander HE162
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2012, 03:12:08 PM »
Could you elaborate on that?
Specifically do you have the weight (empty and gross), power to weight ratio, and wing loading for both jets? This would show how much more maneuverable it is and give us an idea on whether it's needed or not. Also could you explain what you mean by "Me 262 ... isnt friendly to its user"  and how will the He-162 be more user friendly?


If what you are saying about it's maneuverability is correct than I think it will be a good plane to have. However I do think the Gloster Meteor should take priority as we don't have any Allied jets, and that is a good airplane.
Ummm, I hardly ever fly the 262 and I can turn it pretty easily and Im sure that there are more than a few guys in the MA that can consistently land 5+ Kills in one. Just cuz you either A)never have enough perks, or B)just don't make an effort to ask one of the 262 aces in the MAs you can't ask for a halfarse Jet to fly cuz YOU want it....

You sure you quoted the right person?
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Re: salmander HE162
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2012, 03:13:50 PM »
i have researched this plane from top to bottom...

So any change you'd have the numbers for which I asked on the previous page? They will explain us whether or not it's more maneuverable than a 262.
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Re: salmander HE162
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2012, 03:42:56 PM »
i have researched this plane from top to bottom the plane can travel very fast and has a range of up to 120mins of fuel at full speed which might i add is faster than the me262 next the plane looks cool but its draw back is fire power still more than enough to handle a group of bombers but it hasnt got much firepower as the me262 has plus as i mention in a pre post it got of the ground quicker

Depending which model you are talking about, endurance is far different at alt - and on the deck, secondly that 120 minutes would be fuel burn of 1, in aces high late war arena we have a fuel burn of 2, which means you cut those numbers in half.

On the deck the 162-A2 has only 40 minutes and 80 minutes at 16,000 feet, Fuel Burn of 2.0 means you have 20 minutes and 40 minutes.

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Re: salmander HE162
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2012, 03:51:56 PM »
Here is my take on the 162; Should be added BEFORE the Meteor.  Obviously wouldn't be perked as high or higher than a 262.  50-75% of the 262's price should be about right and reason being is, I've read that the 162's tail was prone to braking up at very high speeds and that she has, for the lack of a better term, "squirrely" flight characteristics in certain envelopes (one mentioned in a post made prior to this one).  IF I remember correctly, she wasn't the easiest play to land either, with some losses resulting from said difficulty in landing.

I give the 162 a +1, however it should be a while before we get her.  I'd MUCH rather see the He-111 and Do-17 before the 162. :D
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Re: salmander HE162
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2012, 04:08:02 PM »
Here is my take on the 162; Should be added BEFORE the Meteor.  Obviously wouldn't be perked as high or higher than a 262.  50-75% of the 262's price should be about right and reason being is, I've read that the 162's tail was prone to braking up at very high speeds and that she has, for the lack of a better term, "squirrely" flight characteristics in certain envelopes (one mentioned in a post made prior to this one).  IF I remember correctly, she wasn't the easiest play to land either, with some losses resulting from said difficulty in landing.

I give the 162 a +1, however it should be a while before we get her.  I'd MUCH rather see the He-111 and Do-17 before the 162. :D

There is a need for more perk equipment, however I am not sure how a 162 vs meteor vote would go, in my case i'd be voting on the meteor, more perks but has a better gun package, slower and more agile.
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Re: salmander HE162
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2012, 04:25:51 PM »
There is a need for more perk equipment, however I am not sure how a 162 vs meteor vote would go, in my case i'd be voting on the meteor, more perks but has a better gun package, slower and more agile.
And way, WAY more usage from a historical perspective.
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Re: salmander HE162
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2012, 05:24:38 PM »
And way, WAY more usage from a historical perspective.

I tend to shy away from "1946" Equipment for a reason, fact is we have to much pre-46 not added in the game.

Japan, Russia need to be filled out, France and Australia added, Germany could use a few buffs for "added eye candy".
Until this gets done, I won't vote on any LWA stuff.
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Re: salmander HE162
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2012, 05:50:53 PM »
I tend to shy away from "1946" Equipment for a reason, fact is we have to much pre-46 not added in the game.

Japan, Russia need to be filled out, France and Australia added, Germany could use a few buffs for "added eye candy".
Until this gets done, I won't vote on any LWA stuff.
I would take any piston fighter from WWII over the Meteor, so my comment was really limited to a WWII perspective based comparison of the Meteor and the He162 and only the Meteor and He162.
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Re: salmander HE162
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2012, 03:29:01 AM »
the metor never fought with the he162 and the fact of burn rate thats not nice :cry but on a more some good news i found out about the charatioristics of the amor and well it was designed to be mostly wood the plane in the same name was to have a mostly metal alloy armor and the wings mostly of wood but had a layer of meetal above how ever the tail wing was made of only wood and would brake at a g force over 5 however the plane still worked when this happened but not for very long

land was a not that differcult but stopping was
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Re: salmander HE162
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2012, 07:37:11 AM »
Metal does not mean armor.
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Re: salmander HE162
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2012, 07:45:02 AM »
... your last word was "periods".

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Re: salmander HE162
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2012, 09:03:57 AM »
you nex time i post i will not use periods ops :rofl
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Re: salmander HE162
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2012, 11:27:52 AM »
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