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Offline Penguin

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Better Bans
« on: January 21, 2012, 11:33:19 PM »
There is a bizarre aspect to getting banned on the boards, one never sees the offending post or posts.  The longer the ban, the more difficult it is to remember just what went wrong.  I propose that if a poster is banned, then they would receive an e-mail with the post copied and pasted and some commentary by Skuzzy as what pushed it over the edge. 

For a long time, I got banned left and right because I had no clue as to what went wrong.  I'm sure other posters have felt the same way, and that knowing not just the rule broken, but how it was broken is essential to using the ban hammer effectively.  Imagine giving someone a ticket but not telling them how they got it; the confusion and frustration are the same.

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Re: Better Bans
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2012, 11:34:41 PM »
I'm overwhelmed!

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Re: Better Bans
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2012, 11:36:28 PM »
don't you get warnings?
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Re: Better Bans
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2012, 11:41:21 PM »
Here's a hint : when somebody tells you you're an idiot and to stop posting, STOP POSTING.
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Re: Better Bans
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2012, 12:33:42 AM »
what is wrong with calling them and politely asking why?  or emailing them?


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Re: Better Bans
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2012, 12:46:22 AM »
Everytime I have gotten a vacation from this board it is because I did something incredibly dumb that was asking for me to get banned. The most recent ban I got said 1 more and I'm out for good. I've tried to be a good boy because I really like this place.
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Re: Better Bans
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2012, 01:06:39 AM »
Most people don't think before they post, even though we have forum rules - they are very BROAD in interpretation, however one rule remains the same..

If it seems like a stupid idea, it probably is, only rule I ever break is #4 for "being disrespectful" - rarely am I ever disrespectful unless someone warrants it.

In 10 years I know I been muted a few times in game, never on the BBS - in game some arguments can go either way, I simply stick to facts - I research and post my input for wishlist and such, and don't play with the trolls, be respectful to everyone and you never get muted/banned.

even jokingly will rub someone the wrong way and you can get banned.
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Re: Better Bans
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2012, 01:24:46 AM »
Imagine giving someone a ticket but not telling them how they got it; the confusion and frustration are the same.

In 20 years of law enforcement I wrote lots of tickets.  The guy doing 20mph over the limit knows why he got the ticket....however he would nearly always whine a bit and present some lame excuse as to why he shouldn't get a ticket. (Only worked one time for one guy)
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Re: Better Bans
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2012, 01:35:48 AM »
For a long time, I got banned left and right because I had no clue as to what went wrong.  I'm sure other posters have felt the same way, and that knowing not just the rule broken, but how it was broken is essential to using the ban hammer effectively.  Imagine giving someone a ticket but not telling them how they got it; the confusion and frustration are the same.

-Penguin

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Re: Better Bans
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2012, 06:47:33 PM »
(Only worked one time for one guy)

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Re: Better Bans
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2012, 07:22:20 PM »
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Ignorance, or stupidity, is no excuse.


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It's not that I can't read them while I'm here, it's that when I try to figure out what happened, I can't get them.  The guy doing 20mph over the speed limit knows what he's doing because he has a spedometer, as opposed to a poster, who cannot tell until it is too late.  This is especially true for topics that are 'on the edge', and the line becomes fine.

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Re: Better Bans
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2012, 07:27:12 PM »
It's not that I can't read them while I'm here, it's that when I try to figure out what happened, I can't get them.  The guy doing 20mph over the speed limit knows what he's doing because he has a spedometer, as opposed to a poster, who cannot tell until it is too late.  This is especially true for topics that are 'on the edge', and the line becomes fine.

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You just answered your own question.  Don't post topics on the "edge" and you'll be fine.  /thread
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Re: Better Bans
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2012, 07:34:41 PM »
Any topic is some distance from the edge, so 'on' is relative.  My point is to make that edge clearer.

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Re: Better Bans
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2012, 09:04:04 PM »
I once got a 1 week vacation from the board for posting something that someone found to be offensive.  In no way did I mean for it to offend anyone.   After talking to Skuzzy it was determined to be a distasteful comment that I apologized for but Skuzzy said I would still have to do a 1 week ban.   I learned from my mistake and moved on.      :salute
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Re: Better Bans
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2012, 09:21:27 PM »
Any topic is some distance from the edge, so 'on' is relative.  My point is to make that edge clearer.

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Seems pretty clear to me, right there in the rules. I've been on these boards a long time with many a post, and NEVER have I been banned. I've had a few post edited, but never banned. Seems pretty easy, just follow the rules  :aok