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Offline BreakingBad

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Lightning Strike: A Lesson Learned
« on: January 25, 2012, 01:45:13 PM »
Last night my neighbors house was hit by lighting and caught fire.  The family escaped unharmed, but the roof is lost.

I heard the lighting strike, it startled me awake, but I went back to sleep.

Lesson learned:  Next time I hear a lightning strike like that, I'm getting out of bed and policing the house for a fire, just to be safe. :salute

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Re: Lightning Strike: A Lesson Learned
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2012, 01:54:33 PM »
Scary stuff.  It's always confused me a bit why one never sees lightning rods anymore.  The house and barn I grew up in both had them, and I know they got hit more than once.  Yet modern residential areas you just about never see them.  I wonder if it just happens so rarely it's stopped being a consideration, particularly in cities that have highrises with lightning rods on them?

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Re: Lightning Strike: A Lesson Learned
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2012, 04:09:40 PM »
Scary stuff.  It's always confused me a bit why one never sees lightning rods anymore.  The house and barn I grew up in both had them, and I know they got hit more than once.  Yet modern residential areas you just about never see them.  I wonder if it just happens so rarely it's stopped being a consideration, particularly in cities that have highrises with lightning rods on them?

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Even if it is extremely rare how much does it cost for the builders to put one up?  Next to nothing and it's basically simple seems weird.
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Re: Lightning Strike: A Lesson Learned
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2012, 05:00:32 PM »
Scary stuff.  It's always confused me a bit why one never sees lightning rods anymore.  The house and barn I grew up in both had them, and I know they got hit more than once.  Yet modern residential areas you just about never see them.  I wonder if it just happens so rarely it's stopped being a consideration, particularly in cities that have highrises with lightning rods on them?

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I know most of the buildings in NYC have them. So they might be there, they're just hidden. Doesn't look real pretty if you imagine a giant lightning rod sticking out of the Empire State Building.

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Re: Lightning Strike: A Lesson Learned
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2012, 05:50:49 PM »
ex-friend lost his house to a lightning strike, it started a fire in the cellar and the oil rags they had down there put it in motion
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Re: Lightning Strike: A Lesson Learned
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2012, 06:51:37 PM »
Might have to do with modern electrical codes - as electricity in homes has become a standard, and a standard practice for having electricity wired in your home is to have the entire system well grounded.  This would negate strikes that come through the electrical grid potentialy miles away or on the power pole right outside your house.  But this would do nothing unless your electrical utility connection is conveniently made ontop a conduit that is also at highest point on the structure (most just run a line to the side of your house above your meter). 

I know some municipalities have codes mandating lighting rods on structures above a certain height (I think the way it is in NY), but a single-story residential building probabley falls well under it. 

Another issue could simpley be enforcement - this would fall under fire and safety or building fire and safety regulations.  IE: many places may have lighting rod mandates, but have all-volunteer fire departments (and lack the personel or funding to make sure every house in the county has their lightning rod and that it's properly installed) or lack building departments to aproove plans or the personel in those departments to review them all thuroughly (in the last few years, at least in my industry, plan reviewers are getting younger and less trained and everoyne is becoming more reliant on the superiors - they throw the book at you on some things and overlook everything else).
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Re: Lightning Strike: A Lesson Learned
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2012, 07:17:37 PM »
I've lectured my dad on the importance of a lightning rod on our roof, he says it will never happen to us, we will see  :devil
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Re: Lightning Strike: A Lesson Learned
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2012, 07:58:51 PM »
Week ago had a very close strike less then 100ft away. Checked around, didnt see no damage
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Re: Lightning Strike: A Lesson Learned
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2012, 08:21:45 PM »
my friend's tree got hit with lightening once, it knocked off about half the tree and burned the rest
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Re: Lightning Strike: A Lesson Learned
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2012, 08:27:38 PM »
I know most of the buildings in NYC have them. So they might be there, they're just hidden. Doesn't look real pretty if you imagine a giant lightning rod sticking out of the Empire State Building.
What do you thnk the old dirigible mast is today? Lightning is about the only thing that uses it now lol.
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Re: Lightning Strike: A Lesson Learned
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2012, 12:13:01 AM »
What do you thnk the old dirigible mast is today? Lightning is about the only thing that uses it now lol.
I know most of the buildings in NYC have them. So they might be there, they're just hidden. Doesn't look real pretty if you imagine a giant lightning rod sticking out of the Empire State Building.





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Re: Lightning Strike: A Lesson Learned
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2012, 12:24:33 AM »
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sweet, i figured there would be tons of photos online of that, but didnt look... I dont get how people can photograph lightning like that...

it happens so fast... seems like it would be gone b4 i even get my finger moving for the shutter button.
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Re: Lightning Strike: A Lesson Learned
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2012, 12:49:52 AM »
Last night my neighbors house was hit by lighting and caught fire.  The family escaped unharmed, but the roof is lost.

I heard the lighting strike, it startled me awake, but I went back to sleep.

Lesson learned:  Next time I hear a lightning strike like that, I'm getting out of bed and policing the house for a fire, just to be safe. :salute

I know that sound all too well. Twice i had lighting strike so close that Ifelt it before you see it. And that "snap" sound it makes is enough to tell you how close you got from it.
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Re: Lightning Strike: A Lesson Learned
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2012, 01:29:23 AM »
Might have to do with modern electrical codes - as electricity in homes has become a standard, and a standard practice for having electricity wired in your home is to have the entire system well grounded.  This would negate strikes that come through the electrical grid potentialy miles away or on the power pole right outside your house.  But this would do nothing unless your electrical utility connection is conveniently made ontop a conduit that is also at highest point on the structure (most just run a line to the side of your house above your meter). 

I know some municipalities have codes mandating lighting rods on structures above a certain height (I think the way it is in NY), but a single-story residential building probabley falls well under it. 

Another issue could simpley be enforcement - this would fall under fire and safety or building fire and safety regulations.  IE: many places may have lighting rod mandates, but have all-volunteer fire departments (and lack the personel or funding to make sure every house in the county has their lightning rod and that it's properly installed) or lack building departments to aproove plans or the personel in those departments to review them all thuroughly (in the last few years, at least in my industry, plan reviewers are getting younger and less trained and everoyne is becoming more reliant on the superiors - they throw the book at you on some things and overlook everything else).


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Re: Lightning Strike: A Lesson Learned
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2012, 08:19:39 PM »
Hmm, electrical engineering.  It's quite the field.  Perhaps having lightning rods every few hundred meters or so would protect houses from such damage. Furthermore, building these simple structures in a way that absorbs as much lightning as possible could power capacitors that would release electricity into the grid.  To those who have studied Electrical Engineering, would this work?

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