The Ship that Would Not Die II

[infowars]

This is an interesting story.

http://www.gtr5.com/

[USRanger]

Never knew that. Wow.

[Penguin]

Was there any reply from the Israelis?  There needs to be a deeper investigation into this event before we start pointing fingers at specific people.  I'm not taking any position on this other than we need to do more research- sites like this can and do spring up all the time.  Usually there is some truth, but the presentation can lead readers to a poor conclusion.  It would have been contrary to Israel's interests to do such a thing because it is, and was, a close ally of the US and NATO.

-Penguin

[Melvin]

It would have been contrary to Israel's interests to do such a thing because it is, and was, a close ally of the US and NATO.

Yep, just like stealing nuclear secrets would have been contrary to their best interests, yet they did it anyway.

[Penguin]

Successdul theft of nuclear secrets is very much in any nation's best interests.  All of the firepower, none of the research.  Evidently, Israel would have had no reason to expect failure (apparently they did fail) so they must have planned for success; which, as I proved above, would have coincided with their best interests.  Be the reason accident or be it malice, whatever happened to Liberty happened for a reason.

-Penguin

[Melvin]

You're totally missing the point, as usual.

Had Israel been caught stealing secrets, we could have easily wiped them from the map.

In the end they were caught, yet we gave them a pass.

[Penguin]

You're moving the goal posts; you said that stealing nuclear secrets was against Israel's self-interest.  I've proved that to be false.  You then moved on into an argument about the likelihood of a coverup based on the "pass" that we gave them.  We haven't even determined that.  We can't argue about a coverup here either.  PM me for that.

-Penguin

[Melvin]

See Rule #4

[SIM]

Don't ya just love how some folks find sanctuary in the anonymity of the interent?

[Penguin]

See Rule #4

[Melvin]

See Rule #4

[Penguin]

See Rule #4

[wil3ur]

The Liberty incident was despicable and dishonorable, especially for an ally.  The ship had a HUGE American flag flying when it was attacked, radioed the Israelis for minutes as the attack continued, and came under fire of not just Air Craft, but Torpedo boats.  This was a deliberate action to be blamed on Egypt to get the united states into the war.  Fortunately, it failed.

We really need to look at this incident, as well as the fact that they constantly lobby for the release of Johnathan Pollard who was convicted of espionage.  As well as providing material and technical support to China in reverse engineering an F-16 during the 1980s, and the spy ring that was broken up in the US shortly before the war on terror began.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/DL04Ad01.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJyCAZGRpf8

For our greatest ally, they have a very long history of stabbing us in the back.

[Melvin]

See Rule #4

[mthrockmor]

The Johnson Administration was not seen as necessarily pro-Israel and a concern existed of intelligence being shared. At least this is one plausible response I've read. No idea and one can only speculate since no official apology or explanation has been offered other then an oops.

Boo