New jets making it fair

[33Vortex]

My perspective is that there are literally hundreds of props to add before taking the jets much further. While any aircraft added can be perked, there certainly are at least 100 props that have the potential to play a bigger role in scenarios and see much more use. For those of us who enjoy historical events this is much more important and rewarding than buzzing around the MA with the fastest plane in the game.

Fact of the matter is, historical events is what make AH truly unique. MMO historical events, no other game has this feature.

Examples just to name a few:

Avia B.534 - Balkans
Gloster Gladiator - Finland, Africa
Ilyushin Il-4 - Eastern front
P-36 - France 1940
MiG-3 - Eastern front
Dewotoine D.520 France '40 & Europe '43-'44
IAR-81 - Romania, Eastern front

I am of the opinion that each and every one of the few mentioned would add more content & flavor to the game than any jet possibly could.

[Bino]

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and the fact it was still used into the Mid-50's by various air forces would add to the fact that it really was the premier jet fighter until the Mig15/F86 era
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Not to argue over the relative performance of the 262 and other jets, but please cite your sources for the claim it was "used into the Mid-50's by various air forces".  

All I can find is that the Czechs (Avia) produced around a dozen - from spare parts - that were in service until the 1950's: http://www.military.cz/czech/air/avia/s92/default.htm

Thanks!  

[DrBone1]

410 First then my Gloster Meteor! 

[Karnak]

and the fact it was still used into the Mid-50's by various air forces would add to the fact that it really was the premier jet fighter until the Mig15/F86 era.  Realistically, pilot to pilot, the meteor would have no chance against a 262.

The Meteor had completely surpassed the Me262 by 1946 with the Mk IV which was 70mph faster than the Me262 as well as retaining the better climb and turn rates.  I am skeptical of Me262s being in service into the 1950s, but even if it were, it was certainly not the premier jet fighter prior to the MiG-3.  That would have been the P-80, DeHaviland Vampire or Meteor.

[VonMessa]

410 First then my Gloster Meteor! 

It is coming.

In two weeks...

 

[bangsbox]

i think the meteor would be a great add BUT we shouldnt get it before V1's are added because it wouldnt have anything to do otherwise.

[MK-84]

i think the meteor would be a great add BUT we shouldnt get it before V1's are added because it wouldnt have anything to do otherwise.

Um...you could shoot down enemy aircraft with it...

[bangsbox]

Um...you could shoot down enemy aircraft with it...

no no no, now that wouldn't have any kind of historical relevance or accuracy no V1 no meteor and theres no need for v1 so it is only logical that we don't have a meteor. remember in this chicken and the egg scenario the V1 came first  


also if you want to fly a jet that "DID" and "WAS" used to shoot down aircraft fly the 262

otherwise i rather see a unicorn Pegasus with 4 hispanos on it and can be refueled by grazing on our newly added lawns. here is a rough sketch of what it would look like.

[bangsbox]

and just think how much more flight and fight time you can get with landing anywhere and refueling on grass

[RTHolmes]

i think the meteor would be a great add BUT we shouldnt get it before V1's are added because it wouldnt have anything to do otherwise.

you want historical accuracy, just vulch with it 

[bangsbox]

you want historical accuracy, just vulch with it  

well i think a "fighter" to be added should have at least as many aircraft kills as the me163. if it were a ground attack craft like the il2 it would be fine. but this is not the case. also ive heard many people say it was not allowed to fly over enemy territory, so my question is if it did "vulch" something, was it at a practice range. if thats the case id like to see meteor in training arena only


and can i get some credit for my sweet "paint" art. i put love into it

[Karnak]

The Ta152, IIRC, has fewer kills than the Me163.

The Fi156 should pretty much be counted as a kill for the Meteor III as it dodged the attack, got on the ground and the crew jumped out before the Meteor destroyed it on the ground.  That isn't really any different than bailing out of an aircraft.

[bangsbox]

The Ta152, IIRC, has fewer kills than the Me163.

The Fi156 should pretty much be counted as a kill for the Meteor III as it dodged the attack, got on the ground and the crew jumped out before the Meteor destroyed it on the ground.  That isn't really any different than bailing out of an aircraft.

well from what i found 163 had 9 confirmed kills, and 152 can only claim "several" yaks and Tupolevs  and 1 tempest. which is still a lot more then strafing a fi156 on the ground with pilot jumping out and running for his life (probably blasting away at the meteor with a luger lol) though i couldnt find anything on the incident

and im still waiting for praise on my unicorn Pegasus

[Karnak]

well from what i found 163 had 9 confirmed kills, and 152 can only claim "several" yaks and Tupolevs  and 1 tempest. which is still a lot more then strafing a fi156 on the ground with pilot jumping out and running for his life (probably blasting away at the meteor with a luger lol) though i couldnt find anything on the incident

and im still waiting for praise on my unicorn Pegasus

The Storch didn't start on the ground, it was forced down by the presence of the Meteor.

[bangsbox]

The Storch didn't start on the ground, it was forced down by the presence of the Meteor.

lol if an f-22 forced down and strafed a piper cub....does it count at a comfirmed air to air "fighter kill"
 
anyway i think its a poor addition to the game for many reasons. when so many other aircraft would be fine additions


and really no one like my pony