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Offline Karnak

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Re: New jets making it fair
« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2012, 06:23:28 PM »
I agree that it would be a poor addition and there are many, many other things that I would like to see before it.
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Re: New jets making it fair
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2012, 06:29:41 PM »
now tell me my quad 20mm unicorn Pegasus is awesome and ill love you later :pray

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Re: New jets making it fair
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2012, 07:12:18 PM »
if it were a ground attack craft ... it would be fine. but this is not the case. also ive heard many people say it was not allowed to fly over enemy territory, so my question is if it did "vulch" something, was it at a practice range.

although designed as an interceptor, it was a ground attack bird by virtue of its squadron's orders. much like the typhoon and (to a lesser extent) the jug for most of their service in europe. if included in AH i would hope you could fly it in fighter or attack modes. it would make a much better deacker and vulcher than the 262. just like RL :D

practice range? if you know enough to comment on the meteors suitability, you must know that already ...
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Re: New jets making it fair
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2012, 07:48:43 PM »
although designed as an interceptor, it was a ground attack bird by virtue of its squadron's orders. much like the typhoon and (to a lesser extent) the jug for most of their service in europe. if included in AH i would hope you could fly it in fighter or attack modes. it would make a much better deacker and vulcher than the 262. just like RL :D

practice range? if you know enough to comment on the meteors suitability, you must know that already ...

i know the whole story...14 V1 kills and a couple of strafe stuff sorties. but what im not clear about is the conflicting info about it not allowed to fly over enemy turf for fear of germans/russians getting hold of it and how it attacked ground targets. so were these ground targets in friendly territory? if it was involved in a major ground battle then maybe it could be added but i feel that this was not the case. also there are many other things that should be added and talked about. im protesting/preaching for this aircraft to really never be added. there is a plethora of GVs bombers and fighter that "should" be added. so id like to see meteor if at all , sometime after 2075 along with my unicorn Pegasus. the meteor belongs in the 1946 arena or the Korean war arena.

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Re: New jets making it fair
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2012, 08:22:10 PM »
It was allowed to fly over German territory very late in the war.

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Re: New jets making it fair
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2012, 08:40:54 PM »
Meteor Mk III and He162 would both be somewhat competitive with the Me262, have strengths and weaknesses when compared with it.

The only thing we really know about a hypothetical match up between the Meteor Mk III and Me 262 is the top speeds and climb rates (both nods go to the Me262, iirc).  What we don't really know about the Meteor Mk III is how well it handles under high speeds (500mph+), how it accels, how it turns, etc etc.  From what I have read, the Meteor was not that far off from the Tempest in terms of sustained turn rates, but I don't have concrete figures.  If that is true, then the Meteor Mk III would only need to get the Me262 down low and below 400mph in a "turn" fight. 

Firepower is a moot point because a simple dash of either nose mounted quad 30mm or quad 20mm and it is game over for the target.

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Re: New jets making it fair
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2012, 10:01:35 PM »
The only thing we really know about a hypothetical match up between the Meteor Mk III and Me 262 is the top speeds and climb rates (both nods go to the Me262, iirc).  What we don't really know about the Meteor Mk III is how well it handles under high speeds (500mph+), how it accels, how it turns, etc etc.  From what I have read, the Meteor was not that far off from the Tempest in terms of sustained turn rates, but I don't have concrete figures.  If that is true, then the Meteor Mk III would only need to get the Me262 down low and below 400mph in a "turn" fight. 

Firepower is a moot point because a simple dash of either nose mounted quad 30mm or quad 20mm and it is game over for the target.


I seem to recall that the Meteor Mk III had the advantage in climb and peak acceleration.

While firepower is, as you say, effectively the same, the ballistics are not and the Meteor's Hispanos would help it there.
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Re: New jets making it fair
« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2012, 07:01:23 AM »
I vote for the Pegasus with the jet blast coming from it's hind-end (or is that just a tail)?
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Re: New jets making it fair
« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2012, 08:26:26 AM »
+1  for sure,  I feel dirty flying a 262 for jet dweebery. 

The meteor would make up for my sins.  Don't care about fighter perks our squad would fly it en masse! 
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Re: New jets making it fair
« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2012, 08:32:30 AM »
All this concern with having jets in-game. I agree with the logic of having the Meteor and possibly the He-162, as they both were in squad strength and saw limited combat. If/when they get they will be perked, meaning we will see them in-game about as much as they were seen in WW2, which was somewhat rare.

In time they should be added though plenty of other birds way ahead of them in the que.

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Re: New jets making it fair
« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2012, 12:06:55 PM »
For the people that are concerned about jets ruining the game, you are looking at it incorrectly.  If we had the 262, meteor, and 162, we would not see three times as many jets flying around.  There might be a slight increase due to the increased selection and personal preference from players, but that would be it.

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Re: New jets making it fair
« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2012, 05:25:33 PM »
For the people that are concerned about jets ruining the game, you are looking at it incorrectly.  If we had the 262, meteor, and 162, we would not see three times as many jets flying around.  There might be a slight increase due to the increased selection and personal preference from players, but that would be it.

This is a point I agree with.
Since the 262 is a perk plane I rarely encounter one.
If we add the others it would only mean a variation among perk-jet flyers.
Some variation MAY NOT be a bad thing, but I'd still like a few more props before we bust out the jets.
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Re: New jets making it fair
« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2012, 05:35:54 PM »
For the people that are concerned about jets ruining the game, you are looking at it incorrectly.  If we had the 262, meteor, and 162, we would not see three times as many jets flying around.  There might be a slight increase due to the increased selection and personal preference from players, but that would be it.

Personally, I think one jet is too many, and we have 3 already. Well ok, 2 and a rocket  :P

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Re: New jets making it fair
« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2012, 06:00:04 PM »
Personally, I think one jet is too many, and we have 3 already. Well ok, 2 and a rocket  :P

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Re: New jets making it fair
« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2012, 06:07:58 PM »
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