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Re: Vultee A-31 Vengeance
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2012, 10:17:30 PM »
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Re: Vultee A-31 Vengeance
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2012, 10:49:34 PM »
but they can fly


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Re: Vultee A-31 Vengeance
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2012, 11:52:52 PM »
Me personally I wouldn't put the vengeance ahead of any other aircraft, Beaufighter and Ki-43 would be primary, Hurri-IIB could get added when the hurri's get upgraded, Hudson make's a better choice over blenheim since it flew with RAAF and NZAF as well as the Brits in burma.

Mohawk is one of those I question that should be added, it was unarmored and slow, perhaps down the road if there's a need to fill out a burma/france theater setup.

The thing about the Hawk 75, P-36, Mohawk series is it covers a lot of countries and was still on the front line in Burma in early 44 with the RAF.  It's not a high priority but far beyond a Vengeance.  With the Hawk, you've got French, US, Finnish, RAF etc and in all theaters of the war.  Historically it's far more relevant then the Vengeance.
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Re: Vultee A-31 Vengeance
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2012, 05:03:53 AM »
The thing about the Hawk 75, P-36, Mohawk series is it covers a lot of countries and was still on the front line in Burma in early 44 with the RAF.  It's not a high priority but far beyond a Vengeance.  With the Hawk, you've got French, US, Finnish, RAF etc and in all theaters of the war.  Historically it's far more relevant then the Vengeance.

...and unlike the Vengeance, the 3D-art for the cockpit and most of the airframe is already practically done.
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Re: Vultee A-31 Vengeance
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2012, 09:24:07 AM »
...and unlike the Vengeance, the 3D-art for the cockpit and most of the airframe is already practically done.

What wins my vote over most things - is basically how many theaters it served, there are some odds and ends that I generally like,
but when you get a plane that served in one theater vs a few - it shows up more in scenarios, snapshots and FSO.

The Beaufighter is a prime example, as the Ki-43, the only dislikes I have about the Mohawk is it basically was unarmored, the allied version of the Zero - and it didn't out turn it either.

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Re: Vultee A-31 Vengeance
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2012, 03:16:51 PM »
i think its good , negative support again , ill get you the fame u deserve mains  :salute+1 for me for def  :salute

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Re: Vultee A-31 Vengeance
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2012, 05:08:16 PM »
Beaufighter before this.

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Re: Vultee A-31 Vengeance
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2012, 03:06:17 AM »
the only dislikes I have about the Mohawk is it basically was unarmored, the allied version of the Zero - and it didn't out turn it either.

Hawk was actually very rugged and durable as was the P-40. It had a pilot armor like the P-40 but the stock aircraft didn't have self-sealing fuel tanks. The wing tanks were largely under the fuselage. Hawk was stressed to 12Gs at 5500lbs flying weight so the structure was very strong overall. Hawk had lower wing loading and stalling speed than Brewster. It was very maneuverable. Both Japanese and RAF pilots agreed that Ki-43-II and Hawk were close in maneuverability but that Ki-43-II was slightly better. I'm sure that the A6M2 had a smaller turning radius however. The biggest weakness that I see is the poor armament.
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Re: Vultee A-31 Vengeance
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2012, 06:38:00 PM »
it looks cool. would also fill the planeset (skinwise) for UK and Aussieland

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Re: Vultee A-31 Vengeance
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2012, 07:27:21 PM »
Hawk was actually very rugged and durable as was the P-40. It had a pilot armor like the P-40 but the stock aircraft didn't have self-sealing fuel tanks. The wing tanks were largely under the fuselage. Hawk was stressed to 12Gs at 5500lbs flying weight so the structure was very strong overall. Hawk had lower wing loading and stalling speed than Brewster. It was very maneuverable. Both Japanese and RAF pilots agreed that Ki-43-II and Hawk were close in maneuverability but that Ki-43-II was slightly better. I'm sure that the A6M2 had a smaller turning radius however. The biggest weakness that I see is the poor armament.

Interesting, I never really studied the Hawk to much, I probably need to go back and find my books on it. I always thought it was "completely" unarmored, rather just the fuel tanks were - which in Aces High means a few hits turns it into a fireball.

I honestly don't think I would fly it over the Buffalo if it was added, same for the Ki-43.
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Re: Vultee A-31 Vengeance
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2012, 01:34:26 AM »
it looks cool. would also fill the planeset (skinwise) for UK and Aussieland

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Re: Vultee A-31 Vengeance
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2012, 02:14:47 AM »
is that a barracuda? looks kinda like it

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Re: Vultee A-31 Vengeance
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2012, 11:54:01 AM »
     Nope, wrong side of the Atlantic  :D

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Re: Vultee A-31 Vengeance
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2012, 08:37:33 PM »
Thank you, no.

you mad that UK had to borrow american rides?

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Re: Vultee A-31 Vengeance
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2012, 08:57:51 AM »
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,311153.msg4027546.html#msg4027546
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