Table saw

[helbent]

Some of you guys might want this model.

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=E3mzhvMgrLE&NR=1

[Wmaker]

Yeh, very cool. First heard about this about 5 years ago. An awesome invention.

[phatzo]

I still couldn't bring myself to put a finger on the blade.

[DaCoon]

The last shop I worked for bought one of these.  The safety manager kept trying to get people to test it with their fingers, I told him I would go first right behind him.   

Never did see if this actually worked or not.   Guess I just like flying AH more than proving whether or not a saw is going to stop from cutting my fingers off....

[dkff49]

That would have done me some goo over a year ago when I was working on my daughter's hope chest. I still have no feeling in my fore finger.

One of the most painful experiences I have ever had.

I wonder what that thing costs.

[Dragon]

My neighbors hand got tore up from a table saw this last spring, damn ugly wounds come from them blades.

[saggs]

That would have done me some goo over a year ago when I was working on my daughter's hope chest. I still have no feeling in my fore finger.

One of the most painful experiences I have ever had.

I wonder what that thing costs.

They've been around long enough that the price is not an issue.  MSRP on their website lists $3,732 for their top of the line saw, under $3k for a decent cabinet saw... which seems pretty average to me.  Certainly not any more then a similar Delta or Powermatic.

http://www.sawstop.com/

I've used one of their saws once, seemed well built.  Only downside was the need to change the brake block thing when switching to a dado, means it takes a little longer and you have one more piece to keep track of.   But for the safety aspect that's not to bad I guess. Also I've heard that cutting green lumber will sometimes trigger the brake, but any carpenter worth his salt wouldn't be using green wood anyway so that's not really and issue.  


EDIT:  Also the first line in that video is wrong the narrator says "The blade has a sensor..."  Which is kind of misleading, the blade does not have a sensor, the blade is merely the conductor to the sensor that triggers the brake.  Any metal blade will work in their saws.

[Rob52240]

it works the same way as a touch lamp.  Good thinking putting it on a sawblade.

[dkff49]

They've been around long enough that the price is not an issue.  MSRP on their website lists $3,732 for their top of the line saw, under $3k for a decent cabinet saw... which seems pretty average to me.  Certainly not any more then a similar Delta or Powermatic.

http://www.sawstop.com/

I've used one of their saws once, seemed well built.  Only downside was the need to change the brake block thing when switching to a dado, means it takes a little longer and you have one more piece to keep track of.   But for the safety aspect that's not to bad I guess. Also I've heard that cutting green lumber will sometimes trigger the brake, but any carpenter worth his salt wouldn't be using green wood anyway so that's not really and issue.  


EDIT:  Also the first line in that video is wrong the narrator says "The blade has a sensor..."  Which is kind of misleading, the blade does not have a sensor, the blade is merely the conductor to the sensor that triggers the brake.  Any metal blade will work in their saws.

$3732 was somewhat close to what I was thinking it would cost but that is far from being "not an issue" since I mostly use mine as a weekend warrior project saw. My shop is far too small (10' by 14') for a saw of that caliper anyway and I knew that asking the question. My question more of curiosity than anything else.

You do bring up yet another question though. When I worked at the cabinet shop we would bring in pieces of oak that were laying outside for long periods of time (in the weather) and cut them for tomato steaks. We used the table saw to cut the points on and I wonder if the water that was absorbed by the wood would set it off too. Again purely out of curiosity since I won't be buying one anytime soon.

After I ran my finger through the saw someone did tell me about such a saw but I was reluctant to believe them since I for the life of me could not figure out how they do it. Makes sense now.

Very interesting.

[wil3ur]

Just call me Mr. Butterfingers...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toNsPh-pxgc

[pembquist]

I've wanted one of these for a while, they seem pretty competitive http://www.toolking.com/industrial-shop-machinery-and-equipment/table-saws-stationary  Definitely worth it even if it cost 1000 more.  I once cut a tendon in my finger when using a hack saw on a steel rod,(duh rod not wood...it sharp,) and 15 minutes with the hand surgeon costs plenty. I seem to remember last time I looked at one that you had to use a tool to take off the splitter not like the slick one that pushs down on the delta.  IMO safety guards etc only work if they are designed to be really easy to use, I put the saw stop tech in that catagory.

[DaCoon]

I've wanted one of these for a while, they seem pretty competitive http://www.toolking.com/industrial-shop-machinery-and-equipment/table-saws-stationary  Definitely worth it even if it cost 1000 more.  I once cut a tendon in my finger when using a hack saw on a steel rod,(duh rod not wood...it sharp,) and 15 minutes with the hand surgeon costs plenty. I seem to remember last time I looked at one that you had to use a tool to take off the splitter not like the slick one that pushs down on the delta.  IMO safety guards etc only work if they are designed to be really easy to use, I put the saw stop tech in that catagory.

The one I worked with at my last shop job had a tightening handle underneath above the braking system.  Thing about the braking system is once it saves you from cutting yourself, you need to replace not only the brake unit but the blade as well.

[USRanger]

Cut my trigger finger off last year at work on a table saw.  Was reattached and, apart from being sensitive, is almost normal.  Amazing how fast it can happen.

[wil3ur]

First thing I learned from my papa and in woodshop was always use a pushstick, you look cooler with two thumbs.

[dkff49]

Experience has taught me to not rush.

When I got my finger it was because i was hurrying and not looking to see how close I was to the blade. It is amazing how much attention I pay to hand placement now. I actually cringe a little everytime I use the saw.