Little something I wrote about in Lit. About the Holocaust

[Shuffler]

All Nazis didn't hate Jews, though they were at least indifferent to the suffering the Nazi party was inflicting on European Jewry, which isn't much better.

Not all germans hated Jews.

[Penguin]

Let's clear this up:

Not all Germans were Nazis
Not all Nazis hated Jews or the other 'inferior' races
Not all of that subgroup of Nazis killed anyone
Not all of that sub-subgroup of Nazis was a major political player

Nazi Germany is a classical example of totalitarianism.  The powerful control the weak by fear and tricks, with the tricks employed being similarl to how the Americans were able to appear to be more numerous at the Battle of the Bulge.

The same applies to the Japanese.  I should have cited a source to refute your claims of fanaticism earlier. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_front_during_World_War_II#Japan One can clearly see that the Japanese were moving away from the cities, and the claims of millions to die for the defense of Japan were propaganda.  The fanaticism simply wasn't there- it's evident in the evacuation plans that Japan cared about its citizens' lives.

-Penguin

[W7LPNRICK]

Remember, their are those who swear this never happened and are still attempting to eradicate all Jews. We will see worse in our lifetime that these poor souls went through...IMO   

[Shuffler]

Let's clear this up:

Not all Germans were Nazis
Not all Nazis hated Jews or the other 'inferior' races
Not all of that subgroup of Nazis killed anyone
Not all of that sub-subgroup of Nazis was a major political player

Nazi Germany is a classical example of totalitarianism.  The powerful control the weak by fear and tricks, with the tricks employed being similarl to how the Americans were able to appear to be more numerous at the Battle of the Bulge.

The same applies to the Japanese.  I should have cited a source to refute your claims of fanaticism earlier. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_front_during_World_War_II#Japan One can clearly see that the Japanese were moving away from the cities, and the claims of millions to die for the defense of Japan were propaganda.  The fanaticism simply wasn't there- it's evident in the evacuation plans that Japan cared about its citizens' lives.

-Penguin

When you want to argue a point.... never use wiki links.

[Penguin]

The wiki page is well cited.  I don't suppose that you'd like scholarly sources?

-Penguin

[katanaso]

Let's clear this up:

Not all Germans were Nazis
Not all Nazis hated Jews or the other 'inferior' races
Not all of that subgroup of Nazis killed anyone
Not all of that sub-subgroup of Nazis was a major political player

The SS equated the Jews to vermin.  These are not the regular soldiers, nor simply members of the Nazi Party.

Nazi Germany is a classical example of totalitarianism.  The powerful control the weak by fear and tricks, with the tricks employed being similarl to how the Americans were able to appear to be more numerous at the Battle of the Bulge.

This is an absolutely terrible analogy.  And again, it doesn't talk to the point of the SS, which is specifically what was depicted in the picture.  The SS weren't controlled by "fear and tricks", as you used above.

The same applies to the Japanese.  I should have cited a source to refute your claims of fanaticism earlier. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_front_during_World_War_II#Japan One can clearly see that the Japanese were moving away from the cities, and the claims of millions to die for the defense of Japan were propaganda.  The fanaticism simply wasn't there- it's evident in the evacuation plans that Japan cared about its citizens' lives.

-Penguin

If you want to cite the Japanese in a valid comparison, research their killings of the ethnic Chinese, POWs, and others in Asian countries.

Since you use Wikipedia, here's a link for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes#Crimes, or do a Google search for "Japanese impaling babies" and look at the link titled "The rape of Nanking: the forgotten holocaust of World War II - Google "

[Tupac]

The Japanese were just as bad as the Nazis (atleast he Nazis treated POWs fairly well)

[4Prop]

The Japanese were just as bad as the Nazis (atleast he Nazis treated POWs fairly well)

but japs didnt do all those wacky "scientific experiments" on their POWs..did they?

[Penguin]

The SS equated the Jews to vermin.  These are not the regular soldiers, nor simply members of the Nazi Party.

This is an absolutely terrible analogy.  And again, it doesn't talk to the point of the SS, which is specifically what was depicted in the picture.  The SS weren't controlled by "fear and tricks", as you used above.

If you want to cite the Japanese in a valid comparison, research their killings of the ethnic Chinese, POWs, and others in Asian countries.

Since you use Wikipedia, here's a link for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes#Crimes, or do a Google search for "Japanese impaling babies" and look at the link titled "The rape of Nanking: the forgotten holocaust of World War II - Google "

You know what,  I posted this in the wrong topic.  I thought that I was posting in "Barefoot Gen".  My bad.

-Penguin

[PR3D4TOR]

(atleast he Nazis treated POWs fairly well)

Not on the eastern front.

[katanaso]

You know what,  I posted this in the wrong topic.  I thought that I was posting in "Barefoot Gen".  My bad.

-Penguin

*smacks*

[Tupac]

but japs didnt do all those wacky "scientific experiments" on their POWs..did they?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

[4Prop]

huh, never knew about that. I never really researched it though

[Tupac]

The japanese killed as many chinese civilians during the Sino-Japanese war as the germans killed jews during WW2. The Japanese were worse in every way.

[4Prop]

Oh yeah, I knew that. they went into chinese villages and just mowed them down. worked the survivors to death afterwards