ENY and side balancing outdated and a freking JOKE!

[hotard]

adjustments,yes but why restriction? Better start a proportionally perking according with Eny. If you want your P51,enjoy it,but pay 10-20perks. I've seen many times buffs high bombing HQ,and having over 5 can't use the Me163. Well,  me163 shouldn't be subject to eny,only perks.

Now THAT's an idea!

[Tilt]

Perks are already subject to some eny based multiplier......... but I get the point the multiplier just needs to be more effective and relate to  "normally" zero perked birds when eny would normally kick in.

For me I dont like ENY that tries to "balance" play by denying a side rides.

IMO the side with the biggest number should (all other stuff being equal) roll over the other sides ...there is nothing wrong with this particularly when side switching is subject to time restraints.

[hitech]

Amazing after all the posts that some folks still don't get the fact that WE KNOW IT'S A PERCENTAGE THING.
The problem is that it fails under many conditions such as the many scenarios posted in this thread.

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Whatever it goes by needs an adjustment if one team can have 65 more players and no restrictions.

Notice the post just a few above yours stated a quantity difference and not a % difference? So who exactly is the "WE" you refer to?

Hence I have no desire to comment on a thread that from the start is nothing but a whine poorly hidden via an invalid premiss and argument.

HiTech

[hotard]

 

[caldera]

Notice the post just a few above yours stated a quantity difference and not a % difference? So who exactly is the "WE" you refer to?

Hence I have no desire to comment on a thread that from the start is nothing but a whine poorly hidden via an invalid premiss and argument.

HiTech

Perhaps I should have worded my post differently.  What I mean is that the percentage needs adjustment, especially as the overall population increases.


Example #1 - 10 players in arena:

Nits 40% - 4 players

Rooks 30% - 3 players

Bish 30% - 3 players

No reason for ENY to affect anything.


Example #2- 500 players in arena

Nits 40% - 200 players

Rooks 30% - 150 players

Bish 30% - 150 players

A 50 player advantage is significant, no?  Shouldn't ENY kick in sooner as the numbers go up?

[guncrasher]

cal there's a time in the game when if you have 50 more players it wont make a difference in gameplay.  if you cannot defend a country with 178 players then either most of them are in the tower whining about why "we" not defending.  or are up in the air whining about "why" we are not defending.

I can understand when there's 30 fighting against 80 but not 178 against 221.  first of all the 221 are not gonna be in the same area. and second they're fighting against 330.  there's many times us in knights have had numbers like that but we getting our butts kicked all over the place because we are fighting two countries who arent fighiting each other as much as fighting us.

so numbers by themselves sometimes are :meaningless" but percentages are a more accurate representation  but even then when the numbers are so high like you quoted even if the percentage is above 50, it doesnt guarantee that that country is rolling bases like crazy.  otherwise we in knights would be able to win more wars  .


semp

[SPKmes]

I think......I that screenie you took , yes there is a large numerical difference in the total numbers but not in flight.... Ultimately there is only a difference of about 33 over bish and 28 over knit..... Now I would hazard a guess that many of that lot nor inflight are waiting for a mission to launch...the mission would have been able to up eny 5 enmasse but after launch had you taken a screenie I'm sure you would have seen something totally different and had you been rook country. Would have been full of crying

[Delirium]

I'd like to see ENY twice, maybe 2.5X as punitive compared to what it is right now. Combine that with zone ENY and we actually might see something besides P51s and Spits.

[caldera]

cal there's a time in the game when if you have 50 more players it wont make a difference in gameplay.  if you cannot defend a country with 178 players then either most of them are in the tower whining about why "we" not defending.  or are up in the air whining about "why" we are not defending.

I can understand when there's 30 fighting against 80 but not 178 against 221.  first of all the 221 are not gonna be in the same area. and second they're fighting against 330.  there's many times us in knights have had numbers like that but we getting our butts kicked all over the place because we are fighting two countries who arent fighiting each other as much as fighting us.

so numbers by themselves sometimes are :meaningless" but percentages are a more accurate representation  but even then when the numbers are so high like you quoted even if the percentage is above 50, it doesnt guarantee that that country is rolling bases like crazy.  otherwise we in knights would be able to win more wars  .


semp

I think......I that screenie you took , yes there is a large numerical difference in the total numbers but not in flight.... Ultimately there is only a difference of about 33 over bish and 28 over knit..... Now I would hazard a guess that many of that lot nor inflight are waiting for a mission to launch...the mission would have been able to up eny 5 enmasse but after launch had you taken a screenie I'm sure you would have seen something totally different and had you been rook country. Would have been full of crying

Not sure if both of you are referring to this screen shot:



Notice that the Rooks have 65 more players than the Bish.  That translates to just over 140% of the Bish numbers.  If another country has almost half again your numbers and no ENY keeping them from the best rides, You wouldn't say that is unbalanced?

edit: ENY is the same whether everyone or no one is in the tower.  If a huge mission upped, the ENY would be unchanged.

[FireDrgn]

This only matters if your flying the low numbered eny planes right. How about just perk those rides instead of making them unavailable.

[matt]

cal there's a time in the game when if you have 50 more players it wont make a difference in gameplay.  if you cannot defend a country with 178 players then either most of them are in the tower whining about why "we" not defending.  or are up in the air whining about "why" we are not defending.

I can understand when there's 30 fighting against 80 but not 178 against 221.  first of all the 221 are not gonna be in the same area. and second they're fighting against 330.  there's many times us in knights have had numbers like that but we getting our butts kicked all over the place because we are fighting two countries who arent fighiting each other as much as fighting us.

so numbers by themselves sometimes are :meaningless" but percentages are a more accurate representation  but even then when the numbers are so high like you quoted even if the percentage is above 50, it doesnt guarantee that that country is rolling bases like crazy.  otherwise we in knights would be able to win more wars  .


semp

saturday nite 130 bish 220 rooks 180 nits their was an eny of 2.1

[matt]

saturday nite 130 bish 220 rooks 180 nits their was an eny of 2.1

at 1 point their were 80 more rook and 50 more nits. would'nt be
so bad if it was a 3 country war.no big bish will fight their way back
and this will be a reset map.

[LCADolby]

The In Flight numbers are barely different.

[realgood]

 

[VonMessa]

The In Flight numbers are barely different.

What he said  ^^^^^^^

It is based on # of players in flight (the yellow) and NOT # of players in the arena (in red)

In other words, the guy in the tower taking a leak is not used as a variable in the ENY equation.

I cannot explain it in more simple terms than that.