« previous next »
Pages: 1 ... 5 6 7 [8] 9   Go Down

Author Topic: ENY and side balancing outdated and a freking JOKE!  (Read 6582 times)

Offline uptown

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8566
Re: ENY and side balancing outdated and a freking JOKE!
« Reply #105 on: March 05, 2012, 08:16:42 AM »
Quote from: Delirium on March 04, 2012, 09:28:29 PM
I'd like to see ENY twice, maybe 2.5X as punitive compared to what it is right now. Combine that with zone ENY and we actually might see something besides P51s and Spits.
yup  :aok
Logged
Lighten up Francis

Offline VonMessa

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11922
Re: ENY and side balancing outdated and a freking JOKE!
« Reply #106 on: March 05, 2012, 08:30:38 AM »
Quote from: Delirium on March 04, 2012, 09:28:29 PM
I'd like to see ENY twice, maybe 2.5X as punitive compared to what it is right now. Combine that with zone ENY and we actually might see something besides P51s and Spits.

Definitely more punitive, but not any more sensitive.


Quote from: ghi on March 04, 2012, 04:31:19 PM
adjustments,yes but why restriction? Better start a proportionally perking according with Eny. If you want your P51,enjoy it,but pay 10-20perks. I've seen many times buffs high bombing HQ,and having over 5 can't use the Me163. Well,  me163 shouldn't be subject to eny,only perks.

I also like this idea since the availability and range are already limited coupled with the fact that the #'s, in-flight, can change dramatically in the time it takes to get to the HQ with bombers in most situations.  I would like to see it cost more perks, but be exempt from ENY restrictions.. I don't think the ENY value of the aircraft should be changed because it IS quite an uber ride, only that it should be available for use, regardless of ENY situation.
Logged
Braümeister und Schmutziger Hund von JG11


We are all here because we are not all there.

Offline caldera

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6437
Re: ENY and side balancing outdated and a freking JOKE!
« Reply #107 on: March 05, 2012, 04:36:48 PM »
Quote from: VonMessa on March 05, 2012, 07:52:26 AM
What he said  ^^^^^^^

It is based on # of players in flight (the yellow) and NOT # of players in the arena (in red)

In other words, the guy in the tower taking a leak is not used as a variable in the ENY equation.

I cannot explain it in more simple terms than that.

(Image removed from quote.)

I think you are mistaken about that.  ENY is based on arena population.  Sitting in the tower does not affect it.
Logged
"Then out spake brave Horatius, the Captain of the gate:
 To every man upon this earth, death cometh soon or late.
 And how can man die better, than facing fearful odds.
 For the ashes of his fathers and the temples of his Gods."

Offline hitech

  • Administrator
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 12398
      • http://www.hitechcreations.com
Re: ENY and side balancing outdated and a freking JOKE!
« Reply #108 on: March 05, 2012, 04:50:00 PM »
Quote from: caldera on March 05, 2012, 04:36:48 PM
I think you are mistaken about that.  ENY is based on arena population.  Sitting in the tower does not affect it.

Incorrect, it is based on total arena population. If it wasn't it could be greatly manipulated simply by mass take offs.

HiTech

Logged

Offline caldera

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6437
Re: ENY and side balancing outdated and a freking JOKE!
« Reply #109 on: March 05, 2012, 04:52:33 PM »
Quote from: hitech on March 05, 2012, 04:50:00 PM
Incorrect, it is based on total arena population. If it wasn't it could be greatly manipulated simply by mass take offs.

HiTech



<Chekov voice> "That's what I said."   You should have quoted the other guy.  :neener:
Logged
"Then out spake brave Horatius, the Captain of the gate:
 To every man upon this earth, death cometh soon or late.
 And how can man die better, than facing fearful odds.
 For the ashes of his fathers and the temples of his Gods."

Offline Butcher

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5323
Re: ENY and side balancing outdated and a freking JOKE!
« Reply #110 on: March 05, 2012, 05:42:45 PM »
Quote from: VonMessa on March 05, 2012, 08:30:38 AM
Definitely more punitive, but not any more sensitive.



ENY isn't a problem for anyone who doesn't sit in perk/low ENY rides all the time, then again only 25% ever figured this part out.
Logged
JG 52

Offline VonMessa

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11922
Re: ENY and side balancing outdated and a freking JOKE!
« Reply #111 on: March 05, 2012, 08:35:49 PM »
Quote from: hitech on March 05, 2012, 04:50:00 PM
Incorrect, it is based on total arena population. If it wasn't it could be greatly manipulated simply by mass take offs.

HiTech



I stand corrected.  I was always under the impression that it was the other way around and that it was only based upon "active" players in the arena.

Thank you for letting me know that.

The system, as it is now, seems to be the fairest option with the tools that you have available to you guys but nothing is ever perfect.

Besides, what Butcher said:

Quote from: Butcher on March 05, 2012, 05:42:45 PM
ENY isn't a problem for anyone who doesn't sit in perk/low ENY rides all the time, then again only 25% ever figured this part out.

The higher ENY planes can be just as capable, when flown properly, but it takes more time to learn them and most folks are not willing to take the time to learn them.
Logged
Braümeister und Schmutziger Hund von JG11


We are all here because we are not all there.

Offline Butcher

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5323
Re: ENY and side balancing outdated and a freking JOKE!
« Reply #112 on: March 05, 2012, 08:37:25 PM »
Quote from: VonMessa on March 05, 2012, 08:35:49 PM

The higher ENY planes can be just as capable, when flown properly, but it takes more time to learn them and most folks are not willing to take the time to learn them.

I came to this conclusion years ago when I got tired of dealing with ENY, rather then whine about it (not to be confused with the main topic about having more players on one side) I did my switch back when there was two LWA's.
Logged
JG 52

Offline caldera

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6437
Re: ENY and side balancing outdated and a freking JOKE!
« Reply #113 on: March 05, 2012, 08:45:23 PM »
The point of this thread seems to be that ENY is not kicking in fast enough, not that people can't fly their late war monsters.
Logged
"Then out spake brave Horatius, the Captain of the gate:
 To every man upon this earth, death cometh soon or late.
 And how can man die better, than facing fearful odds.
 For the ashes of his fathers and the temples of his Gods."

Offline Delirium

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7276
Re: ENY and side balancing outdated and a freking JOKE!
« Reply #114 on: March 05, 2012, 09:17:20 PM »
Quote from: caldera on March 05, 2012, 08:45:23 PM
The point of this thread seems to be that ENY is not kicking in fast enough

That is how I feel personally (combined with a new zone eny program), but I imagine that the whines it would cause isn't worth the headaces to Hitech. Can't say I blame him...
Logged
Delirium
80th "Headhunters"
Retired AH Trainer (but still teach the P38 selectively)

I found an air leak in my inflatable sheep and plugged the hole! Honest!

Offline hotard

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 222
      • nampamodelaviators.org
Re: ENY and side balancing outdated and a freking JOKE!
« Reply #115 on: March 06, 2012, 06:26:33 PM »
Quote from: Delirium on March 05, 2012, 09:17:20 PM
That is how I feel personally (combined with a new zone eny program), but I imagine that the whines it would cause isn't worth the headaces to Hitech. Can't say I blame him...

Kicks in too darn fast when numbers are lower.. Gotta be fun for those 109 experten.. k4 @20 eny v Spit 14 @5 +perked. now there's another joke.
Logged
Guys like me are the reason guys like you hate LA's

Offline SmokinLoon

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6168
Re: ENY and side balancing outdated and a freking JOKE!
« Reply #116 on: March 06, 2012, 07:55:21 PM »
I am one of those players who is not effected by ENY.  However, that doesn't mean that I dont think it should be more drastic.   ;)

I think HTC should re-evaluate its plane set.  The La7, Spit 16, and P51D, and perhaps a few others all deserve a bit of an adjustment. Since they are not perked, they should at least be effected by the slightest of ENY restrictions.  the Spit 16 and P51D could both be lowered to 2 or 3, IMO. 
Logged
Proud grandson of the late Lt. Col. Darrell M. "Bud" Gray, USAF (ret.), B24D pilot, 5th BG/72nd BS. 28 combat missions within the "slot", PTO.

Offline Tank-Ace

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5298
Re: ENY and side balancing outdated and a freking JOKE!
« Reply #117 on: March 07, 2012, 04:27:55 PM »
I was unaffected too, thank god the K4 has an ENY of 20, but I still think it needs to kick in earlier, be gentler at lower numbers, and be tyrannicly crule at super high numbers. You have a total of 40 more people on, congrats, the horders get to fly ENY 35+.
Logged
Quote from: Arlo on April 28, 2014, 06:25:38 PM
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

"Once more unto the breach"

Offline HawkerMKII

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1133
Re: ENY and side balancing outdated and a freking JOKE!
« Reply #118 on: April 06, 2012, 09:02:08 PM »
another fun friday night with side balancing working so very very good...... i seen oh so many rooks and nits switching sides when they out numbered the bish by 50 each...... :bhead
Logged
8th of November 1965, 173RD Airborne <S>

Offline Lusche

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23888
      • Last.FM Profile
Re: ENY and side balancing outdated and a freking JOKE!
« Reply #119 on: April 06, 2012, 09:06:43 PM »
Quote from: HawkerMKII on April 06, 2012, 09:02:08 PM
another fun friday night with side balancing working so very very good...... i seen oh so many rooks and nits switching sides when they out numbered the bish by 50 each...... :bhead

I used to do that before the timer went from 1h to 12h. :)
Logged
Steam: DrKalv
E:D Snailman
Pages: 1 ... 5 6 7 [8] 9   Go Up
« previous next »