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Offline Rich52

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Mossies
« on: February 04, 2012, 05:55:06 PM »
Why is it you see so few of them in the main nowadays? How could such a cool aircraft never have missions built around them? Or squads that specialize in them? Or more Loners who just want to upp them?

They are the very definition of "cool"! Why?
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Re: Mossies
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2012, 06:12:17 PM »
wood sucks.
only a moron would use Dolby positioning in a game.
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Re: Mossies
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2012, 06:28:07 PM »
The Mossie has never been really common, though it has gained slightly since it was remodeled.

It is one of the most under-appreciated aircraft in the game and one of the best perk farmers as well.
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Re: Mossies
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2012, 06:38:32 PM »
Main reason I see it is because its not a late war dominating aircraft, most if not all single engines can out turn it which leaves it to be a picker, except it can't run away or out turn many aircraft.

I use it from time to time to build perks, but its not a true fighter and picking is boring.
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Re: Mossies
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2012, 06:43:29 PM »
Main reason I see it is because its not a late war dominating aircraft, most if not all single engines can out turn it which leaves it to be a picker, except it can't run away or out turn many aircraft.

I use it from time to time to build perks, but its not a true fighter and picking is boring.

The only ones that will out run it down low are perked and the La-7, Fw190D-9, Typhoon, Bf109K-4, P-51D, P-47M, P-47N and Ta152, of which it can out turn a fair number.

I often see people give up and just die because they think they can't fight and win.  I'd take it over a P-51D in a dogfight at low altitude, for example.
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Re: Mossies
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2012, 06:45:23 PM »
I love it.

Fast, agile and hard hitting. Some day I'll get good... and then you shall all pay for your insolence.
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Re: Mossies
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2012, 06:48:04 PM »
The only ones that will out run it down low are perked and the La-7, Fw190D-9, Typhoon, Bf109K-4, P-51D, P-47M, P-47N and Ta152, of which it can out turn a fair number.

I often see people give up and just die because they think they can't fight and win.  I'd take it over a P-51D in a dogfight at low altitude, for example.

Considering the list you chose is what you "Typically" see in the Late War Arena - this is why the Mossie doesn't get flown often, except by a few handful, same as the C.205 in which I fly.

Except 205 doesn't do anything good except run out of fuel in a timely fashion.
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Re: Mossies
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2012, 06:56:31 PM »
You see a lot of Spitfires, N1Ks, F4Us, P-38s and Ki-84s as well.

Granted, an Fw190D-9 and a Spitfire Mk XVI on you is a really, really nasty situation.


At least the Mossie has fuel and firepower going for it.
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Re: Mossies
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2012, 07:01:42 PM »
Its a good B&Z'er. Most of all with a wingman. As a raider it very well might be best in the game.
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Re: Mossies
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2012, 08:50:48 PM »
Its a good B&Z'er. Most of all with a wingman. As a raider it very well might be best in the game.

110 best raider. i use moss all the time though and very rarely fly the 110 even though i do love it. this if because mossy is a perk farmer. i avg 7-10 perks per short flight. 2 kills couple of guns and a few building. then trip to tower...cant really fly around in ack in a wood plane

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Re: Mossies
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2012, 08:54:15 PM »
The Mossie is too hard to fly for the "crutch grabber" players.  The Mossi cant as easily drop all its ord on a town or hangers, then dog fight down low and slow like the P51D can.  The Mossi is a more capable attack aircraft than the crutch planes, but too narrow for most people to put to good use.  Simply put, it is too much of a challenge for most people.  

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Re: Mossies
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2012, 03:57:55 AM »
Versatility and range are commodities of low demand in the arenas. Typical ranges are short enough to allow all planes to operate and you can grab a different plane for every specific mission. For the typical "drive fast to the target with 2000 lbs, dive vertically, release and auger/run away" there are better planes to be found. It is not a one dimensional plane that has a clear single solution to everything. Most players prefer "one strategy defeats all" planes - i.e., being the fastest and run from everything, being the best turner and just yank on the stick.

Main reason I see it is because its not a late war dominating aircraft, most if not all single engines can out turn it which leaves it to be a picker, except it can't run away or out turn many aircraft.

I use it from time to time to build perks, but its not a true fighter and picking is boring.

You'd be surprised what it can out turn slow on the deck. Its not a spitfire, but it can hang with and even defeat many of the high wingload fighters in a circle fight. Aside from that, you have the wrong attitude - if your plane is not the best at knife fighting, picking is the wrong strategy! Dogfighting these planes is the best fun this game has to offer. Try the Mossie, A20 or even A26 and you'd never ever cherry pick again no matte what you fly. 190s are also great fun to knife fight with.
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Re: Mossies
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2012, 10:08:42 AM »
Versatility and range are commodities of low demand in the arenas. Typical ranges are short enough to allow all planes to operate and you can grab a different plane for every specific mission. For the typical "drive fast to the target with 2000 lbs, dive vertically, release and auger/run away" there are better planes to be found. It is not a one dimensional plane that has a clear single solution to everything. Most players prefer "one strategy defeats all" planes - i.e., being the fastest and run from everything, being the best turner and just yank on the stick.
You'd be surprised what it can out turn slow on the deck. Its not a spitfire, but it can hang with and even defeat many of the high wingload fighters in a circle fight. Aside from that, you have the wrong attitude - if your plane is not the best at knife fighting, picking is the wrong strategy! Dogfighting these planes is the best fun this game has to offer. Try the Mossie, A20 or even A26 and you'd never ever cherry pick again no matte what you fly. 190s are also great fun to knife fight with.

The Mossie will out turn a lot of aircraft including the P51D, problem is that it doesn't maneuver well at all at slower speeds.  So once the E is lost is floats like a balloon ,literally.  If there is some alt to be used up, it does have the trick of going nose down and WEP on and that will save it more so than trying to maneuver.  The best bet for a Mossi is to have a cover plane to allow it to perform its mission, which is best described as pummeling a town.  Auto ack is not nice at all to the Mossi, so that too is a factor when peeps are deciding on the "easy" factor.  

The Mossi is an awesome aircraft, it performs the ground pounder role very well.  It is just a big target for auto-ack and is an easy pick for fighters while it is performing that role.    
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Re: Mossies
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2012, 10:26:35 AM »
What a nasty crash!!!  :O





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Re: Mossies
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2012, 10:27:38 AM »

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