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Offline olds442

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intesting
« on: February 06, 2012, 07:07:18 PM »
found this on a old topic.
Pyro: IMO, the P38 has the best flaps of all the fighters because it seems to me that they provide the best lift to drag ratio
Pyro: there are accounts that held that the P38 could turn even with the zeke with correct employment of the flaps

 
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Bullgator: the 38 turning with the zeke thing
Bullgator: was that an AW account or historical
Pyro: historical.

so um..yeah that dont happen here
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Re: intesting
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2012, 07:08:29 PM »
38s can do amazing things.
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Re: intesting
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2012, 07:17:25 PM »
Quote from: olds442 on February 06, 2012, 07:07:18 PM
found this on a old topic.
Pyro: IMO, the P38 has the best flaps of all the fighters because it seems to me that they provide the best lift to drag ratio
Pyro: there are accounts that held that the P38 could turn even with the zeke with correct employment of the flaps

 
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Bullgator: the 38 turning with the zeke thing
Bullgator: was that an AW account or historical
Pyro: historical.

so um..yeah that dont happen here


So um...yeah it does happen in here. 

A well flown P-38 (any of the models) can turn with a Zeke 2 to 2.5 turns before it will start to lose ground and the Zeke will start to gain an angle.  So it is imperative for the Lightning driver to get the kill within that time or they'll need to go into a shallow dive and extend and then reset the fight.  However, at high speeds (above 325mph IAS) it is much easier to turn with a Zeke in a P-38 as at that speed and above, the Zeke's turning ability is lessened, while the P-38 has far better high speed performance and can turn with a Zeke if the speeds are kept high.

If you're gonna insist in turning with a Zeke, it's better to use vertical turns to use the superior vertical performance of the P-38 and not get into a flat horizontal turn fight with the Zeke.


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Re: intesting
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2012, 09:36:48 PM »
Quote from: olds442 on February 06, 2012, 07:07:18 PM
found this on a old topic.
Pyro: IMO, the P38 has the best flaps of all the fighters because it seems to me that they provide the best lift to drag ratio
Pyro: there are accounts that held that the P38 could turn even with the zeke with correct employment of the flaps

 
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Bullgator: the 38 turning with the zeke thing
Bullgator: was that an AW account or historical
Pyro: historical.

so um..yeah that dont happen here


Again, you show how much you don't know. AK-AK is right. Flying the 38 well is like shooting taters well. It's a skill that can be learned, if you take the time.
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Re: intesting
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 09:56:11 PM »
Any plane flown correctly can do anything anyother plane can do and sometimes even better.
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Re: intesting
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2012, 10:35:31 PM »
Even I can make the 38 dance with a Zeke. Brief as it may be but it is very doable.
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Re: intesting
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2012, 11:10:27 PM »
a 38 can out turn a zeke at high speeds when the zekes controls get heavy, thats it as far as i know.
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Re: intesting
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2012, 12:54:41 AM »
Quote from: JOACH1M on February 06, 2012, 09:56:11 PM
Any plane flown correctly can do anything anyother plane can do and sometimes even better.
Anyone else laugh at this?


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Re: intesting
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2012, 02:04:20 AM »
Quote from: JunkyII on February 07, 2012, 12:54:41 AM
Anyone else laugh at this?


 :noid

he's right boss.  once i got owned by a lanc while flying a zeke  :cry.  then again once i roped a p38 with my b26  :banana: :banana: :banana:.


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Re: intesting
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 02:23:41 AM »
Take an A6m5 to 25k in a P38L.

/clearly you haven't
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Re: intesting
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2012, 09:11:16 AM »
Quote from: JunkyII on February 07, 2012, 12:54:41 AM
Anyone else laugh at this?


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what's so funny :noid
Quote from: Butcher on February 07, 2012, 02:23:41 AM
Take an A6m5 to 25k in a P38L.

/clearly you haven't
Can you get to 25 in a zeke?
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Re: intesting
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2012, 09:17:45 AM »
The 38 sucks.... we should all just ignore them in a furball.
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Re: intesting
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2012, 11:35:59 AM »
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So, what are you in testing for?
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Re: intesting
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2012, 12:08:42 PM »
Quote from: olds442 on February 06, 2012, 07:07:18 PM
found this on a old topic.
Pyro: IMO, the P38 has the best flaps of all the fighters because it seems to me that they provide the best lift to drag ratio
Pyro: there are accounts that held that the P38 could turn even with the zeke with correct employment of the flaps

 
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Bullgator: the 38 turning with the zeke thing
Bullgator: was that an AW account or historical
Pyro: historical.

so um..yeah that dont happen here


You are quoting me out of context.  First, I do believe the chat you are referring to was about 20 years ago as a player in Air Warrior on flying the 38 and I think you're trying to present it as something else.  Second, I didn't say that a P-38 using flaps could turn with a Zero, only that there were accounts of such.  When asked if I was talking about an in-game account or a historical account, I replied that I meant historical.  I did not opine on whether I thought that was correct or not or even exactly what that meant.  It was to make the point that you could improve your 38 flying with the use of flaps.
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Re: intesting
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2012, 12:25:28 PM »
Quote from: JOACH1M on February 06, 2012, 09:56:11 PM
Any plane flown correctly can do anything anyother plane can do and sometimes even better.

Ok, out climb my k4 with your il2

fly your storch faster than my 262

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