Blackberry playbook tablet

[Flipperk]

Just bought the blackberry playbook tablet... which is what i am typing on now... i must say that i really believe that is much better than the ipad... hands down.

Anyone else happen to have the blackberry playbook?

[MK-84]

I sell them.  I think they're very good, fast, excellent screen, and I prefer the smaller size to the ipad.  My grief is that the software that it uses really doesnt have the kind of support as Apples's or Android.  So what you see is pretty much what you get, which is not a problem if it does everything you want.

I think the most direct comparasion would be the kindle fire.

[coombz]

there were tablets out in 2001 better than the iPad

[coombz]

MK84 do any of the tablets you sell support Java apps?

[Slash27]

Got the fiancé a nook for Christmas. We like it better than the iPad.

[Krupinski]

Typing this on a Sony Tablet S.

[Shuffler]

Typing this on a HTC Inspire.

[CAP1]

 my mom's still loving her kindle fire. i got her that for christmas. she called me tonight to tell me again that she loves it. i don'yt have any tablet of my own yet.......i keep looking, but i'm too dam cheap to buy one for me.

[CptTrips]

there were tablets out in 2001 better than the iPad

Appearently the marketplace disagrees.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/07/ipad-market-share-2011_n_1080051.html

I think that the Kindle Fire may eventually carve out a market segment but I doubt the playbook (not that its not nice hardware) will do well long term.
But the Fire and iPad are targeting completly different markets.  Its like comparing Kia and BMW.  Yeah, they are both car companies, but their potential buyers don't "really" overlap very much.

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Wab

[Tigger29]

Appearently the marketplace disagrees.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/07/ipad-market-share-2011_n_1080051.html

I think that the Kindle Fire may eventually carve out a market segment but I doubt the playbook (not that its not nice hardware) will do well long term.
But the Fire and iPad are targeting completly different markets.  Its like comparing Kia and BMW.  Yeah, they are both car companies, but their potential buyers don't "really" overlap very much.

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Wab

The big problem with the Fire is that all of the reviews keep talking about how bad it is.  They do this by comparing it to an iPad.  They show how it doesn't scroll as smoothly.. or how it takes longer to boot.. or how it takes a millisecond longer to load an app.. or how its colors aren't as bright or as magnificent as the iPad.  What they always fail to mention is that it's A THIRD OF THE PRICE! 

I've played on both the Fire and the iPad and to be honest I don't feel that I'd be happy with either device.  I just like to tinker too much.  I'd probably actually prefer the Fire because I can hack it and put what I want on it.  Not so much with the iPad!

Apple has such a huge fanboi market base to it that there are many people that will go on blindly pretending that it's worth the extra money because since it's Apple it must be better, regardless as to whether or not they actually need all of it.  Most younger people who know nothing about phones/mp3 players/pads will simply just go buy an iSomething because they really don't know any better and they're afraid to "take a chance".

Apple has done a fantastic job at playing on the "too cheap to be true" mentality and while this normally would be true they've successfully done the exact opposite.. convinced people that if they don't shell out extra money for an Apple product then they'll be throwing money down the drain.  Generally speaking if the average joe wants something of good quality they'll just buy an Apple and be done with it.  They don't want to have to be bothered with doing any real research or spending any real time on it.. just buy it and be done with it!

It's pretty sad too.  I laugh at my uncle every time I hear him ask someone for their wifi password because he refuses to pay the extra cash for unlimited data for his iPhone... all while I'm surfing continuously on my droid with an unlimited data $35 plan...

I'm not saying Apple products are of poor quality... quite the opposite they seem to be very well built.. but when people who can only afford a Kia go out and buy a BMW simply because they're afraid that a brand new Kia will break down on them every two blocks (which is hardly the case).. well there's a BIG problem with their mentality here.

[CptTrips]

Trigger,

I agree with some of what you said.  Not with everything.  
There is certainly some blind brand loyalty that goes on.  
However, I think the main reason the marketplace has favored the iPad is you are not just buying a piece of hardware; you are buying a complete system.  You are buying an ecosystem, of which the hardware is only one small piece.
Its also the appstore, the payment system, the available content, the OS, the upgradability, virus susceptibility etc, etc.

As a life long PC user/programmer I was really skeptical when I bought my first iPad, but they won me over for sure.
My Dad bought an Android Vizio tablet and the first thing he had to make sure he installed and configured was his virus scanning software.  

Anyway,  I don't want to hijack FlipperK's thread with a larger discussion of mobile computing, so I'll stop now.  

Wab

[Shuffler]

Trigger,

I agree with some of what you said.  Not with everything.  
There is certainly some blind brand loyalty that goes on.  
However, I think the main reason the marketplace has favored the iPad is you are not just buying a piece of hardware; you are buying a complete system.  You are buying an ecosystem, of which the hardware is only one small piece.
Its also the appstore, the payment system, the available content, the OS, the upgradability, virus susceptibility etc, etc.

As a life long PC user/programmer I was really skeptical when I bought my first iPad, but they won me over for sure.
My Dad bought an Android Vizio tablet and the first thing he had to make sure he installed and configured was his virus scanning software.  

Anyway,  I don't want to hijack FlipperK's thread with a larger discussion of mobile computing, so I'll stop now.  

Wab

Yup apple limits you to protect you. With droid it is the users job to protect theirselves. Droid users have more choices because of this setup.

Apple by far is not infalable..... they even placed software on their own phones to track keystrokes and location. When Apple fails it generally includes every user of theirs in their failure.

[CptTrips]

Yup apple limits you to protect you. With droid it is the users job to protect theirselves. Droid users have more choices because of this setup.

Apple by far is not infalable..... they even placed software on their own phones to track keystrokes and location. When Apple fails it generally includes every user of theirs in their failure.

Heh.  You sound like me a year ago. 

I saw an interesting article a while back by one tech evangelist who was originally very critical of Apple's "walled garden" appstore.  He was writing that he has eventually changed his mind.  Instead of limiting the user, it actually frees the user.  The user can download any little thing he ever wants from the appstore and feel completely secure that its not going to hose up his system.  Freedom from fear. Thats pretty much the same conclusion I eventually came to.

I also think that approach will be much more common that you may realize.  There is definitely a trend to the "apliancification" of computing.  People just want it to freakin work when they turn it on.  The marketplace has long ago moved past the shade-tree mechanic/PC tech enthusiast that wants to fiddle with their OS and hardware.

Have you seen previews of the appstore for Win8 Metro?  Its almost an exact copy of Apple's approach.  Metro apps will ONLY be able to be purchased from the MS app store. 

(Prediction alert, but there is mounting evidence) And I believe both are moving to making it the same thing for even the desktop!  I believe that in 5 years, both Apple and MS will only allow anything to run on any of their platforms (desktop, phone, tablet, xbox, whatever) that was purchased from their respective app stores and digitally signed as officially approved software.  Which means nothing runs on their platforms that they don't get their 30% cut from.

Google is in the process of dealing with massive malware and fraud apps on their marketplace.  They will eventually adopt many of the same constraints if they want to remain players.

Put your hands in the air FlipperK!  This is a freakin hijack beotch!

(I tried to be good)
Wab

[Shuffler]

(Prediction alert, but there is mounting evidence) And I believe both are moving to making it the same thing for even the desktop!  I believe that in 5 years, both Apple and MS will only allow anything to run on any of their platforms (desktop, phone, tablet, xbox, whatever) that was purchased from their respective app stores and digitally signed as officially approved software.  Which means nothing runs on their platforms that they don't get their 30% cut from.

Should that come to fruition..... It would be a huge boon to open source which is already pretty rampant. Most folks want freedom to use their equipment as they see fit.

[Seanaldinho]

Hate to say it but I hate my Kindle Fire.

If all you want is books, movies, and some apps to kill time with then its great and fairly cheap. Otherwise it lacks...

The app market is fairly limited on it. There are no aviation apps for it and that was the main reason I wanted a tablet but this is what daddy bought so Im stuck with it.