I don't know, never knew my real dad. Got stuck with a step father who used to beat me up. Wound up living with my Grandmother at 12. ABout 16 I paid him a visit after he beat my motherup. I brought a few friends. Needless to say he wont hurt anyone, anymore, anytime. That was about 30 years ago. Statue of limitations has passed, and no-one is looking for him either.
"my parents did it and I turned out fine".
I get your point but have to disagree.These people were not using old fashioned discipline. They were just idiots.