Wishlist : review coolant loss for liquid cooled airplanes

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Lets face it : P51b/D NEVER get a radiator hit
                   Dora/152 is so prone to radiator hits, may LW pilots in AH2 dont fly them.

                   

[wil3ur]

Last time I took off a dora, I did 2 flights.  15 minutes getting to alt and into the area, 1 ping radiator hits on both flights, and this was taking hits from behind, not leading with my nose.

Plane went into the hangar and has stayed.

[Krusty]

P-51s do, in fact, get radiator hits.

I think that the glass jaw on the 190/152 does need looking into, though. This was an armored oil system and in a small frontal area.  In-game it goes with a single ping sometimes. Also the oil ring on the 190As needs looking into. This was armored as well. It seems to lose oil on any hit from the front. Forget bomber hunting... *IF* you catch the bombers you get only until your oil runs out because you WILL lose it as soon as you get return fire.

[waystin2]

My karma must be really bad at the moment, I get radiator hits in the ponies and the 190's all the time.   

[guncrasher]

Yeah the thing about radiator hits in ponies is that they aren't obvious.  Most of the time, I gotta look at the damage report to figure out why my engine quit.


Semp

[68ZooM]

ive noticed alot more radiator hits from the 6 oclock postion in the pony lately, i used to fly the 190 dora alot but there one hit wonders now as far as engine damage from the 6 oclock postion.

[Krusty]

The trick is not to get hit... It's a lovely plane if you can pull that off. It's not unique in that aspect (at least, in this game) where a few planes have had these quirks.... Old-model P-40 flaps, anyone?    F6F lost the same gun every time, first ping every time, too.

etc

If you put some time into it, you love it. It's just that you always have to keep an eye on your exit strategy (like flying any model of 190)

[Butcher]

I always find certain aircraft have a certain flaw somewhere, 190D9 almost always get a radiator hit, F6F losing one particular gun, spitfire wings are extremely weak.

Then other aircraft like a P51-D never gets a coolant leak, Panther G always gets killed from the front lower hull no matter the range of the enemy tank is.

B-24s catch fire almost instantly if you get a few hits on the wings from a diving attack, B-17s never catch fire unless you are lucky.

I stopped posting in the bug forums because I've been whining about the Panther G for months now and nothing has been looked into, I can understand if the Panther G is climbing a hill and someone catches the front lower hull exposed, however on level ground even a Panzer F can kill it from the front at 2k away.

[AWwrgwy]

You need to take into account where the radiators are located and where you are getting shot.

Want a rad hit in a Pony? Fly through base ack.



wrongway

[4Prop]

i always get radiator hits in them. even funnier when they are behind you and shoot it out because that's totally awsome and real

[Babalonian]

Lets face it : P51b/D NEVER get a radiator hit
                   Dora/152 is so prone to radiator hits, may LW pilots in AH2 dont fly them.

                   

OK, I support and agree with your request for a review, maybe even some revisions - but not for any of the reasons you listed.

First, it was the Luft whom first termed the Dora's "glass radiator" in the 40s, loooong before any AH2 player did.  (IMHO, it's got the glass chin alright, but some days you get one every sortie, and others I've lost both cowl guns and taken a p/w as some of the least of my damage issues but still had a perfectly instact radiator and oil system.)

Second, not many people get radiator strikes against a mustang because the way its modeled and flown, you need a near clean open shot of their belly to ping the coolant system.  Most shots, most angles, you'd need to shoot through two other major components to reach the radiator system - included amongst that list is the pilot, fueselage, and aux fuel tank (most being much nicer "sweet spots" to land a good bead on for a kill).


Since we're just griping here, how about a look into that Dora's "fabric and foil" tail. 

Last time I took off a dora, I did 2 flights.  15 minutes getting to alt and into the area, 1 ping radiator hits on both flights, and this was taking hits from behind, not leading with my nose.

Plane went into the hangar and has stayed.

That has been curious to me many times, and likely a legitimate claim - with such a forward-placed system, it sure does often take punishment from behind and through the rest of the aircraft.

[Wmaker]

I think that the glass jaw on the 190/152 does need looking into, though. This was an armored oil system and in a small frontal area.

The 10mm armour ring around the radiator wouldn't help much in real life if anything armour piercing above rifle calibre hits it and the inner section isn't armored in any way because the cooling air needs to get in.

[pervert]

OK, I support and agree with your request for a review, maybe even some revisions - but not for any of the reasons you listed.

First, it was the Luft whom first termed the Dora's "glass radiator" in the 40s, loooong before any AH2 player did.  (IMHO, it's got the glass chin alright, but some days you get one every sortie, and others I've lost both cowl guns and taken a p/w as some of the least of my damage issues but still had a perfectly instact radiator and oil system.)

Second, not many people get radiator strikes against a mustang because the way its modeled and flown, you need a near clean open shot of their belly to ping the coolant system.  Most shots, most angles, you'd need to shoot through two other major components to reach the radiator system - included amongst that list is the pilot, fueselage, and aux fuel tank (most being much nicer "sweet spots" to land a good bead on for a kill).


Since we're just griping here, how about a look into that Dora's "fabric and foil" tail. 


That has been curious to me many times, and likely a legitimate claim - with such a forward-placed system, it sure does often take punishment from behind and through the rest of the aircraft.

I'd have to disagree flying the Dora exclusively for a number of years, compared to say a Tempest or a pony its night and day I've had 9 sorties in a row ended by rad hits. Tell you what I am that confident in this I will set up a strict test and perform it and film it over the weekend if I have the time, if I am wrong which might still be possible  I will hold my hands up. 

[B4Buster]

I get radiator hits very often in the D9, often times on the first bullet ping I incur.

Not sure how you have flown the D9 for so long without putting your head through the monitor, perv. You are good in that thing though!

 

[pervert]

I get radiator hits very often in the D9, often times on the first bullet ping I incur.

Not sure how you have flown the D9 for so long without putting your head through the monitor, perv. You are good in that thing though!

 

Believe me I feel like it at times mate  by and large the rad hits for whatever reason always emerge at the most irritating time in a sortie 

This is mere guesswork, perhaps someone with more knowledge could elaborate on it, but to me it seems the entire nose is a 'hit zone' regardless of were it hits it seems it uses I dunno, percentages? to determine whats hit ie a radiator hit will be most likely followed by engine oil followed by cowl guns etc etc regardless if it actually hit the radiator, and this becomes more pronounced the longer you fly it.