Kel-Tec rifles

[jollyFE]

anyone own one?  thoughts...trying to stay cheap

[lmxar]

Bad, bad, bad idea.  Go and buy a Ruger 10/22 if you want a cheap gun.  Works amazingly, tons of fun, you can buy a box of 1000 rounds cheap at Wal-Mart, it doesn't break, and there are tons of spare magazines on the market for it.  If you hate .22 caliber rifles, you can get tons of really high quality bolt rifles for less than $500.  Some guns that come to mind are the swedish K31,mauser series, and the springfield 1903.  Some of these even have been re-chambered into more common NATO calibers.  If you want a semi auto, you can get a M1 garand from the CMP for ~$600 (before transfer, shipping, etc).  Just stay away from the kel-tec brand.  There's a reason it is cheap.

[Reschke]

There is nothing wrong with KEL-TEC as a firearm. I have shot plenty of their weapons and they function well enough but need a little more TLC than others. For a simple action you can't go wrong with a Ruger 10/22 though and you can tweak it whenever you feel like it.

[jollyFE]

I already own a 10/22 and I agree that its sweet.  Im looking for a .223 ar type rifle and want to spend under $800 (I know thats a tough one)

[sunfan1121]

If you want a cheap plinker go with the Hipoint 995. Great gun for the money, I got mine for about 250.

[Slash27]

anyone own one?  thoughts...trying to stay cheap

Kel Tec has started to make some high end firearms and they aren't cheap. Not sure why it would be a " bad bad bad idea" to buy one. What are you looking for anyway?

[lmxar]

I have a friend that is a well respected class 2 in the NC area.  He has gotten to the point where he doesn't let them in the shop.  From my understanding, they require a lot more maintenance than similarly priced guns, and the only Kel-Tec I have ever shot was one of their pistols.  The parts didn't even fit together, and the owner had to end up machining the slide some so that it wouldn't bind.  Maybe I haven't had enough experiences with the company, but the ones I have had are all poor.  If I was looking to buy a 5.56 AR type rifle for $800, I would personally save up for another couple of months and get a good base model AR15 from rock river, bushmaster, etc.

[Slash27]

I've never been a fan of their pistols either. Some like the lightweight and size for conceal carry but I really don't like the 9 mile trigger pull. Now their new " tactical" stuff is very interesting. I really want their new KSG shotgun.

http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/shotguns/ksg/

Their bullpup .308 is pretty interesting too.

[RichardDarkwood]

Im looking for a .223 ar type rifle and want to spend under $800 (I know thats a tough one)

Not really. Ruger Rancher rifle.

[Slash27]

I already own a 10/22 and I agree that its sweet.  Im looking for a .223 ar type rifle and want to spend under $800 (I know thats a tough one)

Should be very easy to get an AR for under $800. Along with RR and Bushmaster the Imxar mentioned, Smith & Wesson is a very good choice. They're are several very good AR rifles on the market right now. I'd recommend buying a basic flat top M4 configuration and figure out what you'd like to add from there. One thing I think is a must though is is replacing the pistol grip with a Houge. It's the best $20 I ever spent on my ARs.

[Jayhawk]

I already own a 10/22 and I agree that its sweet.  Im looking for a .223 ar type rifle and want to spend under $800 (I know thats a tough one)

I have a Stag Arms Model 1 I bought for just about $800.

[DEECONX]

You can build a descent AR platform for under $800. 

[Slash27]

I have a Stag Arms Model 1 I bought for just about $800.

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[zippo]

  Check out Model 1 .  You can go to a local dealer or gun show and buy an AR lower.  The lower has the serial number and has to have the paperwork done on it.  The rest of the parts can be ordered and you can assemble it yourself.  New Frontier Armory has complete lowers for around 100 dollars if you don't want to put it together.  I don't know anything about them...I just saw it online yesterday.  You can get one shipped to a local dealer and pay a fee for the paperwork.  I've put together several using Model 1 parts,  7.62 x 39, 6.8 SPC, and a few in 5.56.  I don't think they are as good in quality as some of the more expensive guns but they work.
  Someone suggested a High-Point.  I have one of those in .40S&W( High-Point 4095 carbine)...it ain't pretty but it's fun to shoot.  Not sure what the price is on one, I swapped a pistol for it.  Pretty sure it was listed under $300.
  What kind of weapon are you looking for?  As in what do you plan to do with it....targets, hunting, waste ammo (the fun stuff), etc?

[jollyFE]

Where can I order the parts to build one.  I'm all for that.